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Why is Yao no longer allowed to take open jumpers???

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Gummi Clutch, Jan 7, 2005.

  1. Gummi Clutch

    Gummi Clutch Member

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    I saw in the PHO game, Yao was holding the ball for like 5 or 6 seconds, WIDE open, at the top of the key. He passed up an open look that we all know he can knock down. This is not the only time this season that Ive witness this. It seems as though JVG is trying to make Yao's only asset post play when in reality, Yao can probably just about shoot the ball as good as anyone else on the team.
    It's well known Yao's idol was Sabonis, and I remember how he used to kill us with open jumpers, even 3s!!!
    I can understand wanting Yao to be in the post for a majority of the plays, but the guy is the best shooting big man in the league, why not let him take an open shot?!? We let Howard throw up bricks consistently from 5-10 feet away, but Yao is forbidden to take shots we all know he can make.
    Maybe it's the rebounding issue why we want Yao so low in the post, but I miss seeing him make those open jumpers every once in a while.
     
  2. lal_da_munda

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    i know what play you're talking about and i was thinking the exact same thing. it really bothers me that jvg is trying to change yao's game rather then allowing him to play his game and just adding new dimensions to it. dream used to shoot 18-20 footers whenever the defense would give it to him and that made him more effective all around. i know for sure that yao has a better jumper then dream but there's know way he's going to hit them consistently if he's hesitating and that's yao's biggest problem on offense right now is that he hesitates too often. drum roll please....thank you jvg.
     
  3. Texas Stoke

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    Just because Yao Ming does not take the jumper does not mean he is not allowed to take the jumper.
     
  4. tikwanleap

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    His shot was pretty good before, but this year it seems that it has gotten worse.

    I remember that he did take those midrange jumpers at the start of this season but he didn't make them as much as he used to.

    It looked like he lost some of his shooting touch this year. Maybe his elbow injury changed his shot?
     
  5. Harrisment

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    Kinda what I was thinking...
     
  6. lal_da_munda

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    I'm not saying that he's not allowed to shoot jumpers but you can see that he definitely hesitates to shoot jumpers and was also like that last year. It seems that in his first year under rudy he was shooting more jumpers w/o hesitation and that's probabaly b/c in rudy's system players are free to fire it up. as everyone knows, jvg is on the other side of the spectrum. i'm not bashing jvg, i'm just pointing out a observation. after watching the astros last season, i have learned to let the season play out before i make any judgements.
     
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    You guys are nuts if you think VG is responsible for Yao's indecision, directly. It appears that VG has gotten the message that the league wants fast break basketball and he appears to have let the dogs run for the last few weeks with McGrady the the new team leader. This new mind set MAY be causing Yao to hesitate and if so this will pass in time. This is unlikely but possible.

    The new rules are definitely letting the game be more exiting and while Yao is not greyhound like Stoudamire, you notice that Stoudamire had a subpar game against Yao the other night.

    Please don't find another reason to trash VG again. This is getting ridiculous.
     
  8. bob718

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    Yao is not allowed to shoot jumpers because this team needs him to rebound. He has got to stay in the low post.
     
  9. Texas Stoke

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    The thing is, we have to pay a little more attention to the articles.
    Because every other article I read, the players say JVG gets mad when the players pass up open shots. Gundy hates that indecision. I can see why too, because it shows mental timidity. If you are afraid to fail, you won't last long in the league, except if you are 7'6 and 390lbs - you will end up just getting by. But I guarantee you Gundy would rather Yao shoot everytime he touches the ball.
     
  10. meh

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    I'm leaning towards Yao simply not having confidence in his jumpshot right now. The elbow brace must've really hurt his shooting motion. Yao is probably trying to regain his touch in practice before he uses it again in game situations.

    And if the league truly is trying to make the game more perimeter based permanently, then Yao definitely needs to be a great jumpshooter for this team to suceed..
     
  11. Charvo

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    I think Yao is now a grunt roleplaying center. Maybe that's what JVG wants him to be.
     
  12. gotoloveit2

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    I think it has more to do with being disencouraged to take a 15 footers by this coaching staff since Day1. And with all those weight trainings, the constant wrestling in the low posts, and his recent elbow injury, I just don't think Yao feels comfortable any more in taking them, unless it is for a desperation attempt. Sofar I have only seen a single play designed for Yao to take a jumper coming off a screen from a inbound pass this whole season.
     
  13. Daddy

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    i think he doesnt take jumpers because HE IS 7'6 320lbs.

    we all know he has the ability to shoot with range, but why do we want the biggest guy on the court taking shots at point guard range?? how many times does this happen?? once, maybe twice a game, where yao is actually holding the ball at the top of the key unguarded and has the chance to shoot it?? nobody is in fear of yao dribble driving around them, so teams arent going to fall for the same trick enought times to make a difference. most of the time when yao gets the ball at the top, he gets rid of it right away because it is the start of a drawn up play they are running.

    we all want yao to get points and have big scoring games. and we all know that he has the ability to shoot the ball, but the team isnt going to draw up plays just to get him shat attempts so his scoring will go up. there is a reason why we want yao taking shots in the post, and because he has no ball handling skills, and this game has too quick of athletes. we will never see him receiving a ball with his face to the basket and a defender on him.
     
  14. gotoloveit2

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    It's hard to rebound after you have set up mulitple picks, all the way out to the perimeter in almost every single play. Yao has a much better chance to rebound offensively in rolling from a high post after a pick, or receiving passes from our penetrating guards, like AB.
     
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    could all that working out have affected his shot?
     
  16. Dr of Dunk

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    Get out of here - no way.
     
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    Then why is he asked to chase the opposing center all the way to the 3 point line all the time instead of staying put in the paint like Shaq daddy on the defensive end?
     
  18. gotoloveit2

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    Name one center in this league who has a decent shooting touch and doesn't take an open jumper when left open, including the 7'3" 260 lb Big Z.
     
  19. ChenZhen

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    This is the main reason why he's losing his touch from the outside as compared to last years IMO. It will take a several games to get used to shooting without that heavy elbow brace. Isn't that like 3 lb? If I have a brace on my elbow that's that heavy, my shot would be off for a year or two at least.

    JVG does encourage him to shoot it form the outside when he's open so don't blame it on him. His confidence and stroke has got to be really off now that he's brace free.
     
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  20. DaGlide

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    No one needs to draw something up for Yao to shat on a play; he does it regularly without prompting. ;)
     

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