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Why is Trump covering up the Epistein files and lying to the public?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Jul 7, 2025.

  1. astros123

    astros123 Member
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    Thank you for not editing out the, "but you morons" part of my sentence. You're slowing accepting reality!

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  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    The rape allegations are at worst unwanted kissing and groping. I'm not arguing that it isn't sexual assault.

    I'm repeating something I posted earlier in this thread

    My logic is that sexual predators usually follow a pattern. Trump is definitely all over the place and chaotic in general.

    Then you have pedophilia allegations. Like the guy is a walking uncontrollable hard on. Trump is a jerk and a criminal and it makes it easy to believe.

    I know it's very hard for victims of sexual assault to come forward but as I've stated earlier, this guy is literally the original reality tv star. He is literally what I think of when I think of the National Enquirer

    I just don't believe none of allegations would not come out. None of these women would want to try to sue this guy who is known for being wealthy? It just doesn't make sense
     
  3. GOATuve

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    You and your following are clowns
     
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    How do you define “groping”? A jury concluded he sexually abused E. Jean Carroll, including penetration with his fingers.

    Maybe not rape by a narrow definition of that word, but pretty close.
     
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  5. AleksandarN

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    Apparently everything in the files with Trump we’re fake. According to Trump. Lol

     
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  6. SamFisher

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    Lol

    Mike Pence: “I believe the time has come to release all the files regarding Jeffrey Epstein’s investigation and prosecution.” www.tiktok.com/t/ZT6YJwL9M/
     
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  7. jo mama

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    because trump said he was going to weaponize the government to go after them.
     
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  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    That was a civil trial with less of a burden of proof.

    I'm not arguing that if true the allegations aren't that bad I was just clarifying an I stand corrected
     
  9. mtbrays

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    I haven't been following this story too much. Is the tl;dr that Trump and MAGA world stoked the flames of a conspiracy theory they might've actually been implicated in?
     
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  10. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    From an eye witness to Trump molesting underage girls:

    My take on Donald Trump, and where his underage sex troubles might have started, is a true story. Some of you might find it clarifying, others might call me a liar. But if you know me, you know I'm honest, hardworking, and don't just speak to hear myself talk.
    From 1995 to 2000, I lived in New York City, putting myself through college in Chelsea. Being French helped me land bartending gigs at fancy spots, including the Limelight nightclub, just a few blocks from my school. I don't put it on my LinkedIn because, well, it was a highly controversial place. But back in the '90s, you'd find Donald Trump, Epstein, Diddy and their crew partying there at our closed-off VIP events.
    As staff, we signed NDAs, but after 30 years, and with Peter Gatien (the owner) and John Carmen no longer around, I think it's fair game. Gatien himself faced drug-racketeering charges, with accusations of selling Ecstasy to underage clubgoers, though he was acquitted of those. He did get busted for tax evasion, though. My ex wasn't thrilled about me working there, but the money was too good to pass up and that was our only source of income.
    The Limelight ultimately shut down due to drug issues and legal troubles.
    Even though Trump was married to Marla Maples then, it didn't stop him from attending these VIP parties. I distinctly remember one night: Trump arrives, without his wife, with two bodyguards. He poses for the paparazzi, then congratulates Gatien on the club, boasting about giving him "good comments" to the TV people. Gatien just laughed, he was just happy being photographed with Donald Trump.
    Back then, Trump was deep in debt, but he still owned the Miss Universe Organization, which included the Miss Teen USA pageant. And yes, some of those teens, like Christie Lee Woods and Shelly Moore, were at these VIP parties. p*rn stars were there too, and it's where Trump reportedly met Barbara Dare and Karen McDougal.
    Now, I know people will bring up Bill Clinton, yes, he cheated on his wife, yes, he was friends with Epstein, but I never saw him at the Limelight with underage girls. Trump's well-known affairs during that time include Lisa Boyne, Cathy Heller, Amy Dorris, and Karena Virginia. While infidelity is one thing, what's truly disturbing is the long list of young, underage girls he molested. And yes, I call it molesting. Seeing Trump inappropriately kissing young girls while I was bartending was incredibly unsettling, holding them tight by the waist pressing his disgusting body against those young girls while dancing in a sexually provocative way and doing other inappropriate things that I won't mention.
    We all know about the infamous "Access Hollywood" tape where he brags about grabbing women. And there are at least 25 women who have publicly accused him of sexual misconduct since the 1970s, from rape to groping and walking in on naked teenage pageant contestants. Trump denies it all, and when I bring this up to Republicans, they claim these women are all liars. But can so many women really be lying, especially without any compensation? I highly doubt it, especially since I witnessed his lewd and sexually aggressive behavior firsthand at the Limelight.
    Jeffrey Epstein even introduced Jane, a Ghislaine Maxwell accuser, to Trump when she was 14, at Mar-a-Lago in the 90s. She testified she had "kissing, oral sex on each other, oral sex on Jeffrey, full-on intercourse with Trump." Epstein was a key player in these VIP parties, and Trump definitely took advantage of the young women there.
    To say "other politicians did it too" doesn't excuse Trump for being, in my view, a pedophile. He should be held accountable for his actions. I really don’t agree with the idea that “most men would do the same.” I’ve never cheated in a relationship and never would, and I definitely wouldn’t even think about making a move on someone way younger like over half my age, even if they’re technically legal. Yeah, some guys are creeps, but there are plenty of good men out there too. There’s no excuse for predatory behavior, especially toward young underage girls. And when it comes to Trump, let’s be real, this stuff isn’t made up, I'm not making any of this up.
    I know his fans will keep defending him no matter what, but what I saw was real. If anyone doubts my story, that’s on them. I haven’t even shared half of what I witnessed working there and probably never will, aka the Limelight’s notorious Shampoo Room foam parties. And yes, Diddy dirty dog was part of those underage fiestas, oh boy, it was more of a dysfunction "anything goes" fiasco than a dance club and Trump was a regular in the mid 90s.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...PNZ7osAWtMo27pJW5A_aem_ULfniuGH1InYwrn_-yYWcQ

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    The truth is coming out....will MAGA call him out?

    DD
     
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  11. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    No, what you are describing is what Biden did to Trump -- weaponized the government to go after his political rival. Biden was no longer an opponent -- he dropped out and selected Kamala, as you may recall. Do you think Trump was going to go after James Biden, who was pardoned? Frank Biden? Valerie Biden Owens? All pardoned. All sold access to the government to enrich themselves. All guilty by any objective standard.

    So Biden was confirmed to be highly corrupt. Biden used the justice department as a political weapon. Biden lost. Kamala lost. America won. Got it! Do not accuse Republicans of thinking of doing something, when the Democrats have ALREADY DONE IT! Amazing the lack of self awareness of the American liberal!


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  12. FrontRunner

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    Biden got worse and worse at politics as his career went on. Pardoning his family looked bad and he never offered a reasonable/coherent explanation as to why.

    I wish he wouldn't have done so, but it's understandable when you consider Trump, his cronies, and the Republican party spent years going after the man's children when they couldn't find anything on him.
     
  13. astros123

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    The charge against hunter was something that no other person in American history was ever charged with. Trump would've fired the AG and it wouldn't have even gotten to that point
     
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  15. jo mama

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    Lol texxx. There is zero evidence that Biden weaponized or directed the justice department to go after Trump. Trump, on the other hand has called to use the justice department to go after his political enemies over and over again. He repeatedly callled to go after Biden family, which is why I understand why he issued all those pardons

    I wish I could say your lack of self awareness was amazing, but you have a 20+ year track record of being a partisan hack
     
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    Well, David Pecker of The Enquirer did testify under oath that he was asked by Trump to coordinate with his fixer to squash negative stories. So you're perception's spot on to some extent.

    The thing is, we don't know how many settlements Trump made over the years and how many women signed NDAs.

    We do know that his ex-wife said at one point that he raped her, that several women have come forward with stories of inappropriate conduct, that at least one girl claimed to have been forced into having sex with him, and that he raw-dogged a pornstar just weeks after his youngest son was born (among other things).

    As for patterns... I don't know. It seems it's pretty widely known/accepted that Prince Andrew boinked VIrginia Guffray when she was underage. There could be other accusations that he molested children but I'm unaware of any. Same with Epstein's other pal Allen Dershowitz ,who was accused of having sex with a minor before she later recanted...

    Who among us here would've guessed Kevin Spacey tried to get in a teenager's pants? Or that Harvey Weinstein was the pig he was before "Me Too?"

    We typically don't "know" until we know.

    As for Trump and Epstein, I don't think we'll ever have a definitive answer one way or another what depths Trump may have sunk to. Trump's filthy rich, he's as powerful as it gets, he's got the DOJ in his pocket, the key witness against him is dead and buried, and a lot of years have gone by.

    You know what they say about fire not being far off when there's smoke though...
     
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    Well you guys have it straight from the chief , nothing to see here ...all a hoax.

    There is no one I trust more than Trump. I trust trump more than my own brother . He is making America great. The population of bald eagles has 10x'd in the last 6 months!

    Democrats had Stephen A Smith and Don lemon writing those fake results.

    Crooked Hillary can't fool me.

    I hope he releases them just so I can see what kind of malarkey sleepy Joe came up with.

    The only impressive thing Dems managed to do was take out innocent Epstein. Obama must've done that

    Case closed . What a doozy
     
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  18. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    LOL, there is overwhelming evidence that Biden weaponized the DOJ to go after Trump. Michael Colangelo literally LEFT THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION to join the Alvin Bragg prosecution of Trump. Tish James campaigned about pursuing Trump in court. Fanni Willis was busted for coordinating with the J6 Committee. Novel legal theories were applied to Trump that had literally never been applied to any other defendant. The statute of limitations was ignored. Misdemeanors were turned into felonies for the first time ever. The timing of the various indictments was political. The number of indictments was political. The entire thing was viewed as a sham by over half of America. American voters weighed in on the political persecution last November. They elected Trump.

    It's why Trump was elected.
    Before the lawfare, the Republican base was fractured. Biden's corrupt DOJ unified the party and paved the way for Trump 47. One could say the lawfare backfired spectacularly!


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