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Why has everyone turned on Morey so quickly?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by acshen, Apr 19, 2011.

  1. acshen

    acshen Member

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    The writing was on the wall for Adelman. We have to rebuild and he has never been a rebuilding coach. I have absolute, 100% faith in Daryl Morey. He has done very little to make me question his decision making up until now. Now the first 3 posts of everything on CF is bashing Morey hard. It's true Adelman is a good coach, but he's still unproven as far as pushing a team into championship material.

    Here's to Morey.
     
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  2. Carl Herrera

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  3. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    Probably could have gone in the countless number of Adelman threads, but it's because we all had high hopes for this team. With things falling apart lines are drawn, some blame the players, some the coaches, and some the management/owners. It's a divided Red Nation. Was the writing on the wall? Sort of. We knew a change was coming and we knew management and coach weren't exactly eye to eye on a lot of what was going on. That doesn't always mean someone is getting fired. As a person who gets really emotionally attached to this team from time to time, I kinda understand how the Adelman supporters feel.
     
  4. napalm06

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    So having 100% faith in an unproven GM is more rational than turning on him for letting a hall-of-fame coach go? Or how about that part where Adelman is unproven championship material despite having hundreds of NBA wins, while you have 100% faith in Morey? To say nothing of Adelman's accomplishments; what's Morey's championship pedigree?

    I'm mostly being devil's advocate here, but I don't see what's so cut and dry about Morey.
     
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  5. worzel gummidge

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    What is a "rebuilding" coach? How is he proven "as far as pushing a team into championship material"?
     
  6. snowconeman22

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    i agree with the topic... not so much the reasoning. Adelman was the best coach we are gonna be able to find. At the same time... firing him means we are a rebuilding team.... Adelman squeezed alot of wins out of this club... and with the climate of the league we werent gonna be able to get better until we got worse. Now we will be able to hopefully land some high draftpicks ( keep in mind that if make the playoffs next year ... then we lose our pick .. in a really really good draft ) and speed the rebuilding process up. This descision was made not because he wasnt a good coach.. but because we needed to go in a different direction.

    As for Morey i can count on one hand the number of "mistakes" he has made since becoming GM... I dont like to put 2nd round misses in the equation so to me the only real mistake he has made is signing Brad Miller which very well may have been Adelman's idea. Mistakes aside he has found gems late in the draft and absolutely destroyed NY and Sac in the Mcgrady trade. His recent moves are too early to judge but it looks like the deadline deals will come out 50/50 at worst.

    I think alot of this hate comes from Morey making the unpopular decision to start the rebuilding process ( i expect him to try to trade martin and scola next).... Look no one wants to sit through a bad season but its necessary so that we can really contend a year or so from now. Personnaly if Morey wasnt confident that we could contend this year... who are we to tell our GM to have confidence in his team.. it should be the other way around.... Plus how angry would we be if morey took no action and we end up at this point again next seasion... except this time if we sneak into the playoffs we lose our pick in a potentially awesome draft class. He is going balls-deep into rebuilding and i applaud him for it. Sit through the year of growing pains and then reap the beniefits.. A lot of this hate is just realization that we are gonna suck next year... fortunately it is planned unlike if we were to suck even after retaining Adelman.
     
  7. Raven

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    I'm torn, I respect RA, but his departure means the rebuilding can officially begin.
     
  8. T-Slack

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    Cause its the offseason for the Rockets and their bored.
     
  9. Yao4REAL

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    Maybe it's best to get rid of Adelman. He and Morey probably don't communicate that much in regard to trades. If it's Adelman's decision, he probably would still keep sorry Aaron Brooks around and had Lowry come off the bench what seem forever. Getting Dragic was the Morey's TRADE and it was his decision overwriting any of Adelman's decision. So probably there is some conflict between the two and in which result in the departure of Adelman. Morey knows what he's doing.

    Top agenda: Hire Jerry Sloan and get a healthy Yao back and we're ready for a Championship run.
     
  10. roslolian

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    I don't see what's so unproven about DM, 90% of his talent evaluations have been spot on during his 5 year tenure. The scola trade, the tmac trade, the Lowry trade, recently even the Dragic trade have been wins.

    OTH, just because you're a HOF coach doesn't mean you're awesome nowadays. Drexler is a HOF sg, would you want him playing on the ROx today? Adelman's accomplishments were accomplished during his prime as a coach, not today when's he's already 65 and playing favorites with the roster.
     
  11. J.R.

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    No one likes a fat dork, who sits and crunches numbers all day, who cant lure top FAs to town, runs coaches out of town like its no big deal, treats players like assets and not humans, lies to the media on a constant basis, and did I mention he is a dork? Who likes that?! :confused:

    /sarcasm on my part. I'm sure others feel this way though.;)
     
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    I was losing faith in Morey until the deadline, he picked a course and that was all I really wanted. Now, it appears Morey may have been the driving force behind Rick going bye bye so I just want accountability.

    Rick is gone because he didn't agree with Morey but they've spun it more of an issue with winning and the direction of the club. So now it is all up to Morey to hire "his guy" and produce or the same should be valid for him as was for Rick.
     
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    You have to be at least a little intrigued by the prospect of the Rockets hiring a coach that will fully embrace the unique advanced metrics Morey's team pumps out. If the Rockets can regain focused alignment, with the coach utilizing the deep analysis of the team and opponents, the GM improving the team wherever possible, and the owner providing the cash and leeway for them to operate, that could generate something special.

    Frankly, I still don't believe the team is headed anywhere fast without top talent, no matter who the coach is. Even with Adelman, the Rockets are not close to contending. Gambling on young guys and losing a bunch of games may be the only feasible way to acquire high draft picks that can be used to draft or trade for a potential superstar. There's no need to keep Rick Adelman around for that. Hiring a guy who embraces the metrics and can grow with a young team has a certain appeal.
     
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    I haven't turned on Morey. I still have faith in him. It's just possible that he may have screwed up a team that was on their way up. Now, instead of needing just 2 pieces to contend, we have to sit and watch them start all over again. What a waste.
     
  15. Spacemoth

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    No one likes it when Mommy and Daddy start fighting. Now Mommy's cooking alone in the kitchen and Daddy has to sleep out on the couch. No happy baby's are raised that way.
     
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    Except he didn't. He chose Lowry over Brooks.
     
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    The Battier trade looks like a mini-Pau trade. Not only did the Grizz get someone who would definately help them in the playoffs, but they were guaranteed the opportunity, ie created the necessary salary space (up to the max), to keep Marc Gasol.

    Rockets got back someone who might not be a NBA player and their cap space was hit. Big men performances in the D-League are deceptive. Fizer looked like a superstar there.
     
  18. deshen

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    Morey should do much better as an assistant. This is simply not his type of job.
     
  19. acshen

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    Could have been worded better, but I meant that his system wins regular season games but never gets over the hump
     
  20. LosPollosHermanos

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    i guess you weren't aware of who he had starting.
     

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