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Why does Yao not take the open shot

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockbox, Nov 16, 2002.

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  1. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I've seen Yao on several occasion wide open at the top of the key with no one on him and refuses to shoot the rock. I've seen him hit that shot over and over again in International play. Don't tell me it is different in the NBA. A wide open shot is a wide open shot.

    He needs to take this shot to keep opposing centers honest so they don't clog up the lane.

    I just don't get why one of the best shooting big mans of all time passes up a wide open 20 footer.
     
  2. feishen

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    Well, he's put in a situation that he can only play for 15 min or less based on his performance. He's careful with every poession he had. If you let the man play for however long he can play until foul trouble, I bet you will see a different Yao Ming.

     
  3. rezdawg

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    I think he doesnt take some shots so that he isnt seen as a selfish player. Instead, he tries to get his teammates involved. I would like to see him shoot everytime he gets the ball.
     
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    Feishen,

    You didn't answer the question, really. All you did was make a self-fulfilling profecy.

    I agree with rockbox. Yao has to learn that he needs to just fire the ball, and force the defense. He'll have more opportunites to do more things if he first establishes his ability to shoot without making a move. It's like he is searching for the difficult play (e.g., a dreamshake that was not happening and ended up a cornered shot off the side of the backboard) or is looking for a pass. You don't look for passes always; you just make them. You don't look for spin moves always; you just make them.

    Take your open 15-18'er, Ming. Do the turnaround, Ming. Be decisive and you will succeed...everything is there. Until he learns that, he only gets 15 minutes in my book. But I'd gushing at the opportunity to give him more. Nice first half, but he seemed to tighten up again in the second--given the starting nod...Is he placing pressure on himself.

    imo, Ming needs to just play.

    imo, Rudy needs to give him the right spots in the game where he has no pressure and can just play.
     
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    I agree. He has had open 18 footers and has not taken them. He is a deadly outside shooter. He should shoot from out there when they are giving it to him.
     
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    Maybe if he would be less hesitant and fire the ball up he would play for more than fifteen minutes. Taylor and Griffin don't hesitate to bomb the 20 footer? Why Should he?
     
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    I agree with rezdawg. He doesn't shoot the open shot because he knows he will make them and doesn't want to appear as a hot shot.

    I don't want him to shoot on every touch though.
     
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    there's a lot of pressure though.. he only gets 15 minutes a game, and during that time, he wants to make a good impression on his teammates and his coach. Shooting every time he's open from 10-15' may not be something he's comfortable with right now, even when his teammates (Francis) tell him to shoot the ball.
     
  9. TECH

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    Has anyone seen the video of Ming in practice, where he drains 13 out of 15 ( I think that's right) midrange shots? He would run to the baseline, catch a bounce pass, shoot the ball, run back to the top, catch another bounce pass, shoot the ball, and do it nonstop for about 15 shots. Nothing but net was all I could see. Awesome.
    He needs to drain his open shots in the game, just like the one against the Suns. He was open, looked for a better shot for his teammates, found nobody open, and popped it in like nothing. Even the ESPN goons wanted Ming to get the ball on a few occassions to see what he could do.
     
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    Yao Ming is too unselfish, tipping rebounds to teamates, looking to pass first, maybe we should run a point center kind of offense, we all know Yao's a good passer hey it worked ok for Lakers of the 80's and Sac of 90's, though they used a high post PF instead. But hey, with Yao able to hit mid range jumpers, it could work.
     
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    yeah ive wondered the same thing. In the world championships, if he was open like that on the top of the key, it was a given he'd take the shot and prolly hit it. The minutes has to be an effect on his shot selection. The confidence will be gained over time. I think it has to be mental also. For example, how Stromile Swift use to hit threes all the time. Swift lighting up Mihm comes to mind. Now the guy cant hit 15 footers.
     
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    Rudy should be screaming at Yao to take that shot. It is as high of a percentage shot as any the rockets take. Guys like Horace Grant and Sam Perkins made their career by making that shot.

    It just opens all kind of options if opposing teams have to cover him to close to the three point line.
     
  13. Old Man Rock

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    I am sure Rudy is giving Yao the greenlight. Rudy tries to instill confidence in his players. He has always STRESSED to his players who can shoot "if you are open take it". Yao can shoot so he must learn to just take it... He will in time... but that is not the real issue, Yao needs more minutes on the court to feel comfortable enough to take those shots... But you can't give him more minutes till he stops being a defensive liability on the court...

    He is already making great strides in that area but he is still third to Cato and griffin in my book... I know many will disagree especially the Ming followers on this board who don't really care about the Rockets but Yao still has defensive defencencies and Rudy can't afford to keep him on the court in crunch time. He has become more aggressive but he is still a liability. He has to believe that when someone is coming into the paint they are coming into his house and trying to steal his dinner and he has to plaster them to the floor a few times. I know this may not be the chinese way but this is the NBA way. He is 7'6" he has to develop a tenacious, agressive mentality that will intimidate opponents. Right now the word out on Yao around the NBA is he is soft. Just take it to him and he will back off. This can not be. He needs to stuff Marbury so hard that the next time Marbury comes in the lane he will think about Yao. He needs to get a few flagrant fouls and maybe a couple of technicals. He needs to foul out of a game, but not because of a bunch of little wussy reach in fouls but because he laid 6 guys out and they had to removed from the stadium on stretchers.

    "The Lane Is Mine" that should be his Koan! The Lane Is Mine! He needs to learn how to say "Don't bring that sh*t in my house!" He needs to be a little like Mike, but not Mike Jordan but rather Mike Tyson, "I'm just trying to feed my kids" as he nibbles on Hollyfields ear. The lane is mine! I will do whatever it takes to defend it! Once he learns that, his minutes will increase and his offense will take care of itself. Because the man can shoot that has never been an issue and once he becomes a force in the paint he will be real giant in the NBA!
     
  14. Panda

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    Agreed, Yao needs to give some hard fouls to get his edge out.
     

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