Why does the rest of the West have all the FA fun?

I wouldn't have wanted to trade Mobley and Griffin for Jameson. Jameson would not contribute much to this team.

 

Here are a few reasons the Rockets are unable to make any serious moves:

Cato - starters pay on a backup
Taylor - overpaid and untradable
Norris - overpaid and untradable
Maloney - still on the payroll but not even in the league anymore
Price - is he still on the payroll?

So you've got 3 overpaid players with multi year contracts and 2 guys still getting checks even though the Rockets cut them and they are out of the league.

And you wonder why the Rockets can't make a deal.......

Raven

 

The vast majority of WC big name players that were moved around this summer were over 30. Only a handful of die hards here think the Rox are ready to contend immediately with LA, SA, DAL, & SAC. Let the other teams fill out their rosters with Malones, Payton's, Sprewell's, & Van Exel's. The Rox focus is internal development and 2-3 years downstream. IMO, getting to the playoffs is more important than mortgaging your future with an Antawn Jamison type contract ...5 more years rising to $16.4m.

 

Just keep mark cuban away from les alexander, he could slip a date rape drug in his drink , and the next thing you know we have bradley and dallas has yao.

 

I would have to kill if that happens

 

That's how the Rockets got Steve Francis by trading. People have to relax, let this team get to the playoffs THEN see what they need. It's easy to say "go out and get this guy and that guy", but this team is still rebuilding. The T-Wolves, Lakers and Mavs and teams like those are veteran teams battling for a championship, we're a young team trying to get to the playoffs, and no matter who the Rockets would have traded for they STILL wouldn't have been competing for a championship. They're to young. Why break up piece of this team just to trade for a 30 something year old and make a "splash" when we have a team that should be in the playoffs this year. Maybe after experiencing the playoffs Yao and Francis and others will know what it takes to carry the team further instead of trading for a bunch of players because other teams are.

 

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If, last season, we were a "3" or "4" on a 10-scale, we'll be lucky to be a "4" or "5" this year (with SA being a "10"). The problem is, LAL, Sac, Dal, are all 8's and 9's; TWolves, Sonics, and Phoenix are 6 - 7's, Grizzlies and Clips might even be 5 to 6........ etc. That's NINE teams that probably will be better than us!!! When are we gonna make the playoffs now???

All other contending teams seemed to move up EXCEPT Houston.

Rudy's foolish moves have set this team back about 3 more years. Therefore, expect playoffs in 2005 - 06. DON"T expect playoff's this year or next.

All my diatribe could be classed as bullsh*t if Ming pulls an MVP-type (25-14-5-3) year. THEN we might make the playoff's.

 

Don't worry guys...

Dallas may trade bench players for starters but we have a different plan - we sign bench players and make them starters (assuming Rice goes down).

 

it's just funny reading some of these posts. People act like the rockets will win 20 games next year. Just wait for the "i told ya so".

 

so that's the dumbest thing you've ever heard? well the dumbest thing i've ever heard is that the Seattle Supersonics are better than the Houston Rockets. GARY PAYTON ISNT THERE ANYMORE! they don't even have a point guard now. (and don't give me this brent barry crap. i certainly don't want to hear it from all of you bastards who always whine about how francis isn't a pure enough point guard). they have Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis. Please. I'm begging you. Explain to me how they're better than the Rockets.

Then, when you're done doing that, please explain to me how Memphis is as good or better than Houston. We were ahead of them by 15 games last season and all they added is James Posey so far. James Posey is going to be single handedly responsible for them improving their record by 15-20 more games? Impressive. We should have re-signed him then. He's obviously MJ like.

And if you manage to come up with an even half way respectable arguement for both of those idiotic comments, go ahead and explain to me how the Clippers are going to be as good or better than us when not only have they not added anything but mid first round picks, they actually lost their starting point guard, their starting center and it looks as though they may lose lamar odom as well. Yeah. They were 16 games behind us last season and so far they've lost 2/5th of their starting line up and will likely lose 3/5th of it, but somehow, magically, they're going to be better than the Rockets. It's addition by subtraction right?


f**kin' geniuses around here.

 

We need to get a vet Pg (Marc Jackson ) and a strong Pf (Oakley) and our roster is set .

Y.Ming/K.Cato
E.Griffin/M.Taylor/C.Oakley
G.Rice/A.Griffin/B.Nachbar
C.Mobley/Pike/A.Griffin
S.Francis/M.Jackson

IR

M.Badiane
M.Norris

 

let me get this straight...the Rockets landed one of the biggest steals in NBA history (getting Francis), got Yao Ming, have Cuttino at one of the best bang for the buck in the league, so we are supposed to be able to still pull blockbusters every summer...when 2/5ths of our lineup is untouchable and another is hard to match in talent for $s....not to mention he's a SG which is not a position that is in short supply in the NBA.

People are not interested in our role players. Eddie is overrated in trade value on this BBS. League decision makers probably don't look at him any differently than Stomile Swift....whoa, what a blockbuster maker Eddie is.

Face it: if the Rockets want to make waves like the Big 5 are doing they would have to trade Steve Francis. Short of that, we are just not in a position to make these types of trades. Cuttino for Jamison is not happening when Jason Richardson is on that team. They needed a PG.

 

Rox get no fa fun because

1. they don't have cap space.

2. they aren't viewed as a contending team.

as far as b****ing about trades we "could've, should've" made, gimme a ****ing break.

 

You don't have to make a big move every off season. We did by the way, Jeff Van Gundy. We have as much talent as anybody, and as much as I loved Rudy T. maybe Van Gundy can get more out of them. Steve is a bad ass, and so is Mobley. A 7'5" man who can shoot and pass is always nice. E.G. can still come with it, remember how he was talking about leading the league in blocks when last season started? Maybe this time, if he gets even close, we are in good shape there. Give Nachbar a chance too. Other than the summer league and garbage time, who knows anything about him? Yet everyone wants to say he sux. The Rockets organization wants to see what we can do with what we already have, which is very good, under a new coach. We still have until what, Feb. sometime if a trade is needed.

 

I really Boki gets a chance.. I know he completely sucked playing against players that also most of them are going nowhere in the league but hey summer league is not as competitive... Hmmmm.... I do think we should sign mark jackson... that would be a great move... REMEMBER PPL we already have our main guys... why mess it up... it would be pretty stupid of us to give cuttino or francis just cuz we are desparate to get to the playoffs.. trust me yao, steve, and cat well take us the playoffs... maybe not as far as the second round... but hey we do have a chance.. Yall simply overrate every team... I mean in the lakers i think that the four might have trouble sharing the ball.. The wolves pretty much the same thing... the Spurs most likely on the top again... The mavs too many good players that want to shoot and there is only 48 minutes so dallas is just getting themselves into trouble becuz players will be complaning about not getting enough shots... Sacramento will be even better now... But yall overrate the teams.. Yall are freakin stupid sometimes.. i read something about the sonics, grizzlies, jazz, clippers being better than us... YALL MUST REALLY BE DREAMIN.. the rockets are way better than those teams... but i dont know whats wrong with some of yall.... The rockets will make it to the playoffs... There is no freakin excuse this year.. We dont have to make big moves every year... It would be kind of stupid... Maybe if we can trade mooch that would be great.. but besides that just dont keep overrating teams.. YALL act pretty stupid once in a while...

 

We still need to make a deal.

The Rockets players are overpaid? Well check this out:

NVE : Maxed out (Approx 12M)
Avery Johnson: 5M
Danny Fortson: 6M+
Eschemeyer: 4M
Mills: 6M


This whole deal revolved around overpaid players. Ratehr than have an overpaid backup C, maybe we can trade him for an overpaid SF, which would improve our team. Trade our oerpaid PF for a more physical PF. Trade them both for Brian Grant, and it won't affect our cap.


You don't need to have cap space or excellent trade bait to make a good trade. Dallas didn't have anything. However, we DO have good trade bait - Rice, Griffin, Mobley, Cato, and to a lesser extent MoT.

We need to bring in one more star that can gel and grow with this team. THEN we fill the other 2 spots with cheap signings and MCE players.

 

Hey jmwilliamson...

Seattle is going to kick the Rockets asses this year!! Why do you think they need Payton to do it is SO beyond me!! They have an unbelievably good nucleus with Rashard, Houston, and Radmonovic, not to mention some stout inside players. Everyone on this board is completely underestimating both Seattle and Golden State. Yeah, you're right, I'll wait for the "I told you so's..."

BTW, you're no frickin genius either!!!

 

It doesn't matter. There are only 2 categories: Superstars and Role Players.


If Yao Ming becomes a dominant player, we can surround him with 4 league minimum vets and still win a championship. Actually, let's sign some role players of yesteryear. Who cares, they were once good. It's all about Yao Ming now.

Our championship lineup will soon be:

C- Yao Ming
SG- Kevin Grevey
PG- Henry Bibby
SF- Junior Bridgeman
PF- Swen Nater

Defensive specialists: TR Dunn and Adrian Griffin

 

R-R-U -
You may want to tame down that "kick the Rockets asses" just a little.

Rashard and Radmanovic are both SF's and seldom on the floor together unless the matchups are such that one of them can play PF. The "stout" guys you are referring to are Peja Drobnjak, Calvin Booth and Jerome James. In 4 games last season against the Sonics, Yao Ming went 11 for 23. Something tells me Yao is going to average a little better than 5.7 FGA's/game against that "stout" Sonics trio in 2003-04.