I rarely start new thread, so please have mercy on me. I have been thinking, why do we want to trade? For we see "Trade ..." threads daily. My answer would be that we want to be better by trading. People who want to trade Yao, is simply because he's below expectation, and he's not great, that's for sure. Now, it comes to the question, whether he will ever be great or at least very good? We don't know. You can predict or argue all you want to, but you never know until it's the time. Therefore, if you want to trade Yao, you want greatness back. TD, Shaq, KG, and KB spell greatness for me. Can we get TD, Shaq, or KG for Yao, NO! We want to win the title. By trading Yao with above average players, and plus Howard and Mo's bad contract, can we be great? Still no. Then why do we want to trade Yao again? At least he's a cashcow, and he has potential, and he's a good center in this era. If Amare + Marion + Nash can't win, can T-Mac + Amare win? NO! Does the Suns want to trade Amare for Yao? Probably not. Does the Pacers want to trade Jamel for Yao? Probably not. Would cuban trade Dirk for Yao? It's possible, but since Dirk + Nash + Finley can't win, can Dirk + T-Mac win? Guess still not. Then again, why do we want to trade Yao? Who can you trade him for? Before you start another proposal by trading Yao for some players, please think, that you want be great, since Yao is nowhere near greatness now, you want to trade him. If you can't get greatness back, then what's the point? I urge you to have some patience and give the current team a chance to develop themselves. If you just want to trade for the sake of trade, probably you don't belong to a Rockets' forum. JMHO.
Exactly.. great post! For those who want to trade Yao... they are either racist or have an I.Q. < 100
Racist is a very harsh word, and serious accusation. Maybe you should really be careful with it, unless you have solid evidence as proof.
I don't agree about the reasons why people want to trade Yao, but I do think it's stupid to want to trade Yao. With the lack of quality centers around the league you have a guy who is supposedly underachieving yet he's clearly the 2nd best center in the NBA. Why? I mean, it doesn't make any sense. I agree about the people who want to make trades to improve the team. Like it or not the Rockets could use a back-up PG (Strickland might fill that role) for the rest of the season and a tough banger up front or a guy who mixes it up in the paint.
Fine... I'm sorry for my harshness.. maybe "biased" is a better word?? How about "skewed?" Sura is biased towards Yao and only defers to Tmac...
Your post seems to suggest that every other possible combination (T-Mac+Amare, T-Mac+Dirk) will not win you a championship. Does it mean T-Mac+Yao will? Also who will really predict Billup+Wallace to give you a championship? Or Nash+Amare to give you such a deadly combination? At the end, the result, the individual performance, and the team performance are what matters. Currently Rockets as a team is underperforming or at least below what people expect them to be. I don't think Dallas would trade Dirk for Yao by the way.
I never said T-mac + Yao can win it now, but I still hope so in the future. Isn't it what we all wanted when we got T-Mac? You just need a strong presence inside. Only running can't win a championship, the Kings, the Marvs proved that already. If you want to predict certain combination has a great chance, you have to provide something other than proven failed model. If T-Mac + Amare isn't too much different than other great running teams, adding our roster, what makes you think a similar version will all of the sudden start working? If Detroit didn't get Rashed, didn't have Prince to stop KB, didn't have Hamilton running 48 mins, Billup + Ben? No way! Speaking of Nash, everyone can see he shined in Dallas, everyone knows he will lead the fast running charge. Adding Amare and Marion and a couple of shooter, actually, I should ask you who DID NOT see them as a very good team? But can they win it all? I don't think so, and lots of people on this board share the same opinion. Speaking of the Marvs, if Cuban is willing to pay Dampier 8 mill (?), and they always have the ability to find great shooters, I see there is possibility for him to take the move.
Bad thread title. Should be "why do we want to trade Yao?" since it's basically another Yao thread. Overall, I want the rox to trade to surround our core players(Yao + Tmac) with better and/or younger role-players. If the rox were to trade either of the core players, I would want it to be to get another core player almost as good, + the perfect role player(s) or perhaps another player that could be considered a core player. Or, if we were offered a player for Yao that makes us instant contenders(Duncan, KG), then obviously we take it.
My comment really belongs in the "trade yao ming" thread. But I dont see any particular reason to bump that thread up, so here goes. Given Shaq's age, I am pretty sure that Miami would accept a straight Yao Shaq swap without hesitation (lets not get into technical details). The two post pretty similar numbers (OK numbers arent everything) at the moment. Actually I think that Shaq is the MOST likely person to be dealt for Yao (which means it is not very likely). If he decided he didnt like Houston and said he would not extend his contract, then a Shaq swap would be the best way of keeping things interesting for Houston fans, at least in the short term... I think Houston would also get a at least a first round pick. It would be the surest way for the rockets to tilt at a championship this or next year.
I have read the words and the words are good! Good post real_egal. But do not worry if the Rockets lose two or three in a row the "Trade..." threads will shift to a "Fire Gundy..." thread. And so the cycle continues...
