Why didn't Morey pull the trigger....

Trade would have been Scola+Battier btw..

BUT, Amare wasn't signing an extension and the lack of the physical scared the Rockets, which makes sense.

 

Cant cry over spilled milk

 

Did you do any research on the "proposed" trade? Rockets were denied a physical and reports are that Amare expressed no interest in signing an extension with the Rockets. If you were the GM we would have traded Scola and Battier, and then Amare would have still left to go to the Knicks. Personally, I don't think trading Scola and Battier for nothing is a deal we should have taken.

 

We'd have looked like bigger losers when Amar'e left us right after the year high and dry.

Chandler trade? I don't know.

 

Hindsight is 20/20

 

I read once, that Jordan,drexler, and Hakeem was a possibility...Miami would have been just another team compared to that line up.

In all seriousness, Morey had these deals lined up and I'm sure reasons for not pulling the trigger had less to do with him and more to do with the player or other team. Amare would more than likely still be a knick had he come to Houston...Tyson, the trade just fell through I believe. It was a 3 team trade and I think one of them pulled out(that's what she said), that team not being the Rockets. The line up could have been nice but everyone blames Morey for not doing this and that but you can't truly believe that every trade that doesn't happen is his fault. As the saying goes "**** happens"

 

There's no way Amar'e was staying in Houston after last season. The guy was going to be a FA this offseason, period.

 

There are conflicting accounts on how close the Rockets were in obtaining him, or what the Suns were asking for. But assuming that Amare was obtainable, the Rockets had two options:

(1) Trade for him, even with the injury concerns, and hope that they can resign him in the summer for what would probably have to be a max deal. Would Amare have been worth it?

(2) Pass on Amare last year, and take your chances going hard after a more coveted player in Chris Bosh in the summer. If you get the trade done, great. If not, you haven't lost valued players.

I favored strategy (2) last year, but the way things have unfolded it looks like (1) would have worked out better. That view is subject to change if Amare's knees break down.

 

The Chandler deal was also not even our deal. Jordan rejected the deal that Morey was trying to get in on.

http://thestar.blogs.com/raptors/2010/07/charlotte-end-of-raptors-deal-dead-for-now.html

 

Honestly you should do more resarch before you start throwing up your hands in despair. DM didn't pull the trigger on the Amare trade because some oddball equation of his said so, it was because PHX didn't allow the Rox to take a physical on him and Amare was doing some melodrama of his own at the time. So, if Morey had pulled the trigger we would not only be getting a guy with possibly dire health problems, there was also no guarantee he would be staying with us after the season was over.

That wasn't Moneyball, that was just common sense, unless you think giving up assets for a person with possible health risks and who might not even sign with you long term is the way to go. With the Chandler trade, Clutch already <a href="http://rockets.clutchfans.net/1380/tyson-chandler-rockets-trade/">posted an article</a> on how any possible Chandler deal with us was killed before it even materialized.

 

No way we know if he does sign or doesnt. We do know he might have signed for a max contract extension if they offered it. We dont know if they offered a max contract extention. All speculation. Even from people who say he wouldnt have signed with us. Its spilled milk now. Just have to get over it because its already done and Knicks have superteam 2012 on the way now.

 

I doubt the Rockets would have offered him the max in the offseason, meaning he would have been gone. I know I wouldn't, as we've had enough of a problem with big men on max deals getting injured. Amare got the max from New York as they had to give it to someone without looking like complete morons, and while he's done well so far, Yao looked pretty good in the first year of his deal before he broke down.

 

I dub this as yet another lame thread.

Clutch, how about making a mutliple choice questionare that an OP could choose from when focusing on a subject. It lessens redundant and LAME threads like these- in hopes that it would redirect them to existing and former (beaten to death) threads.

Just an idea.. Because lame thread is, lame

 

Interesting. I know at the time that the Scola and Battier for Amare trade was being talked about most people were saying don't do it because Amare played no D (like Scola could lol) and the issue of injury, him becoming a free agent the following year and him wanting a max contract. However we went after Bosh with big max money and got played of course. We wanted Carmelo supposedly by any means no matter what but that didn't fall through. But Rockets and fans keep saying we want a superstar soooo bad! Well how bad seriously and at what cost? If it's like this then admit to just trying to solely get high draft picks and get a stud out of college. Seems like Rockets want to get each specific superstar a specific special versus just getting any superstar by any means necessary. That's ok but the first step is just admitting we are getting no where with our way of conducting business and it's hilarious now because no matter how hard most fans are tying to defend and applaud Morey's efforts he know the results are not there as of now and that equals failure now and another year with Chuck Hayes starting at center. Could we have done a better job of anticipating Yao and T-Mac breaking down? Yes. Could we have done something earlier with T-Mac and Yao when they were better tradeable assets? Yes. But we didn't live with we gambled and it was a mistake. Moral victories and hard work that equals losing is not respected when your goal is to win the NBA championship. We have to build a championship roster simple as that and we are having a hard time.

 

The reason we didnt trade for Amare is the same reason the Nets didnt get Melo. Their package was clearly better then the Knicks but they didnt pull the trigger for fear of Melo bolting.

Now imagine if Melo had already had microfracture surgery on his knee, and a major eye injury that threatened to end his career.

Amare is doing great in NY right now. But if in 2 years he is crippled and making 20 million a year, you might think differently.

 

amare's agent told morey he wouldn't resign with houston, that was the real deal breaker.

 

/thread. It was Amare who didnt want to come here, and was not going to sign an extension. When is everyone going to realize? Amare, Anthony, and eventually Paul all planned on going to New York.

 

Whats crazy is all of these West teams killing themselves to trade away their top players and tank their franchises for rebuilding. Meanwhile in Rocket land we cant get role players for role players. Wont tank to rebuild or trade away almost stars to get draft picks and rebuild also.

 

Did you just say a guy with broken knees and a broken eye was an insurance policy for Yao?