Why can't we just celebrate as fans of a great team w/o attacking TMac?

Because some people are at their happiest when they are spreading misery and vitriol.

 

Why couldn't Tracy's fan club worship him without throwing the rest of OUR TEAM under the bus? Why did they have to start a "STFU HATERZ!!1" thread anytime the chump scored 14 points?

 

Agreed. Let's just enjoy the victory without the asterik*******

 

it's sports. it's inevitable. and actually it's fun. as long as they don't diss his character, it's all in good fun.

someone needs to bring up that first round virgin poster and do somethin' wit it.

 

That's not going to happen with Anti-Sonic on the scene.

 

I'm not gonna attack/diss T-Mac anyway.

I've been waiting for this day to come for too long.We haven't gotten out of the first round of the playoffs for 12 years.It's the greatest season ever even if we could not get past the Lakers.

 

Was T-Mac at the game tonight?

 

Because Tmac threw his team under the bus at the trade deadline he deserves what he gets.

DD

 

Bingo.

 

Who? Are we talking about ex-Rocket Tracy Murray?

 

It's not like he actually reads this stuff, so it's not 'proving' anything. I could care less how much hate mail he gets, I just don't want to read it everyday.

 

Why can't some of yall handle a little fun here?
We would tease Yao, Ron too, if this team made out w/o them.

 

You must have a hard time reading this forum every day, given how it's described on the "Let's Talk Rocks" page.

 

I agree. As much as I hate Tracy, we should just celebrate as a team. It has been a long time coming and despite Tracy's effort in the regular season, or lack thereof, he deserves to be in the second round solely on his performances in the playoffs.

 

Sorry, you may have taken me a bit too literally. Nice, though.

 

Good question.

Simple answer?

Tracy McGrady is easy to dislike, if not plain hate. But that's not the reason for people here or anywhere else likening him to the Swine Flu epidemic or Rush Limbaugh.

Tracy McGrady has All-NBA talent. So much talent that, for most of his time here, coaches and GMs thought they could get away with putting poor and unbalanced players around him. And while a guy with McGrady's talent could help just about any team find enough wins in an NBA season to qualify for the playoffs, he was never going to be enough to beat playoff competition on his own four times in seven games.

See, when a guys is as good a ballplayer as McGrady, he has less excuse for failing. McGrady's so good to fans without a clue about the game or what it takes to win a team sport, that the guy with the "best talent" has to be the fall guy when you don't win.

I personally love when people pull out those lovely little stats that say that McGrady "disappears" in games just when the Rockets needed him most, for example. Conveniently ignoring the other three or so quarters of everybody else doing absolutely nothing, as if they think that other Rockets kept the game close while McGrady loafed or something. Or calling McGrady a ballhog or a ballstopper when he's the best passer on the team (and a willing passer at that), because it can't be his fault that he somehow manages to average seven or eight assists to guys who couldn't hit dirt if they fell on the ground. He still averaged more assists per game this season than anybody else, at half-speed while trying to kill a trade or sabotage the team's chances to win and quitting and all of this other junk.

Everybody here is unfortunately admitting by their negative reactions to a TEAM victory, where for once, some other Rockets got involved and made plays and scored and did everything you need a TEAM to do to win and advance at this time of year, that they've been grossly obsessed with what one guy does or doesn't do, or what they think he does or doesn't do.

The Jazz actually gave up home court "advantage" last season in the playoffs because they knew they could beat the Rockets. To a man, the Jazz and their coach admitted publicly and privately that they couldn't stop Tracy McGrady. He could score 50 points. He could dish out 20 assists. He could play all-out or go half-speed. Didn't matter to them. They knew that nothing he did was going to be enough to beat their TEAM.

We just watch Portland overcompensate for Yao Ming, giving other people the chance to step up and make plays and win, and most of these geniuses will still say that it's got something to do with McGrady's hairspray, or the runs in his stockings.

But you know what? None of that negativity matters. Basketball is basketball at this level. You're either good enough as a team to play and win, or you're not. Nobody sitting in a seat in a stadium or with a beer in their hand on their sofa or behind a keyboard on a fan forum changes that.

I LOVE that the ROCKETS won. I hate when the ROCKETS lose. I know that what separates good teams from great ones is what your best players do when the game is on the line.

But before you can get to that point, you have to have a good TEAM.

Not just a team of good guys who work hard and everybody likes and cheers for and roots for and makes excuses for.

Somebody joked about that "boring" Cletics/Bulls playoof series, that's more competitive thatn it should be. But what that sereis shows you is what most people in the game figure out eventually.

There's a BIG difference between your best players WINNING games and your best players keeping you competitive. If Kevin Garnett were healthy, the Celtics probably would have advanced by know. But because he isn't, the talent level is fairly even, so there's a close series.

Kobe Bryant stroked his ego only until he got his tail handed to him in the playoffs a couple of times After Shaq. He got a whole lot of humble pie to eat learning that no matter how good he was or wasn't, whether he was aggressive or facilitated, if his TEAM stank, the he lost. Bryant hated that so much that he held the Lakers by the throat until they re-built the roster around him.

What great players are on a GOOD team are difference-makers. They're not the whole ball of wax. I know ESPN and David Stern have done a great job of making it look like it's a one-man show. That's what sells tickets and spikes TV ratings.

It doesn't win. Never has. Never will.

Ask all these other psychologists around here to dust off the stat sheet of this series and find how many guys other than Yao or Ron Artest had a hand in winning games, and ultimately the series. Despite the fact that Artest is crazy or that Yao is soft.

My advice, my friend.

Love the game. They way it's meant to be loved.

And keep what you think or feel about anybody else out of it.

...unless you just don't have anything better to do with your life...

 

Because T-Mac doesn't even have HALF the heart this team has...he is not a winner, he is a whiner.
Because he throws his team under the bus.
Because he disrespected the organization by reporting his season ending surgery to ESPN and not the people that pay him all his millions.
Because players like him never amount to anything, they have all the talent in the world and but they don't have the drive in them.
Because even though he's been limited by his injuries, he still thinks he is the best player on this team...and refuses to play within the Aldeman system.

And because I would rather have a talented player with heart than a prima donna superstar with no heart.

Go Rockets!!!

 

My point is that the powers that be that run this board/site don't exactly have a lot of respect for Mr. Murray. Since that's the case why should the regular posters be any different?

 

I don't care what anyone's opinion is; i just get tired of hearing the same thing over and over especially when it's derailing good conversation.

But in the end it's an internet message board and i'm just whining.