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Why are the texans doing nothing.

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Air Langhi, Mar 6, 2010.

  1. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    There might be no 2011. Might as well go all out this year. I think a bunch of teams are going with this attitude, but not the texans. Lets not forget they really only beat one team with a winning record (2 if you count patriots) last year.
     
  2. kaleidosky

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    what teams are doing more than the texans that you'd prefer? The Bears signed peppers.. the Giants got Rolle, the Ravens got Boldin. Lions got Vanden Bosch.

    Anyone else? Are you just upset that the Texans weren't among the first 4 big moves?

    I promise, there are more than 4 moves that matter in an offseason.
     
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  3. wallyj12

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    I'm pretty upset this thread was made.

    OP, this thread contributes greatly to my signature. Again, free agency started about 30 something hours ago and the combine JUST finished, meaning the draft is a MONTH away, overreact much? Let's examine some of these moves:

    1) The Bears sign Peppers and Chester Taylor:

    The Bears DO NOT have a 1st or 2nd round pick, Free Agency was their only option to upgrade this offseason and they paid greatly. The Bears left the season with no pass rush and addressed this by signing Peppers to the LARGEST guaranteed money contract in the history of the NFL in 42 million dollars, surpassing Big Al's 41 million guaranteed signing last year and he had a GREAT year last season (not). The Texans had 0.0000000% chance of signing him so that move is irrelevant to us unless he came to an AFC team. Taylor would have been nice but when it comes to free agency it takes two to match, and Chicago was Taylor's first and only visit and he had no intentions of leaving there without a contract (tampering!!! ;) )

    2) Boldin and a 5th gets traded to the Ravens for a 3rd and a 4th:

    How many holes do the Ravens have? One
    How many holes do the Texas have? Several

    The Ravens had one hole and that was a playmaker at wide receiver, so they went out and got one for a couple of mid round picks. I think the Ravens made out like bandits in this deal, but wide receiver isn't a need for us when we had one of the top passing attacks in the league last year so it doesn't make sense to trade away valuable mid round picks when we have several other needs to address.

    3) Lions sign: KVB and Nate Burleson

    KVB: signed for 4 yrs/26million. We were interested supposedly but we already have a 3 man DE rotation so this contract is too much for a 4th rotational guy.
    Burleson: Wide receiver not a need. We got a better deal with Walter.

    4) Giants sign Antrel Rolle 5yrs/37 million

    He is now the HIGHEST PAID safety in HISTORY. Eugene Wilson is solid but we could use an upgrade, but signing Rolle to this contract would hinder us from going after guys like CB Leigh Bodden, a guy who is at a greater need position for us. Yes this year is uncapped, but do you honestly think teams still aren't operating under a budget? The FREE safety position will be addressed through the draft (EARL THOMAS!!) or through trade/FA with several guys still available. Check out what ESPN's AFC South blogger Paul Kuharsky has to say with guys that could fit with us and for what price:

    I think you need to relax, the offseason literally JUST STARTED.
     
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  4. bilaal14

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    WE didnt need to adress that many things offensively, and the defense players are BIG NAMES, that not alot of teams are willing to put money into becuz they are gettin paid BIG money. As far as the texans history goes, if u have been watching over the past 8years. WE always do things thru the draft. ALWAYS, and i personally thikn this is a good ... See Moredraft to add DEFENSIVE players. iA. we will see. WE are set at the O. just need a RB. But D. Safty, cornor, and pass rusher. iA. DEmeco ryans TOP PRIORITY tho.
     
  5. Cannonball

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    This is kind of like those in the GARM who were asking why the Rockets weren't pulling the trigger on any trades before the deadline . . . . . until they made a trade.

    Are you so impatient that a day and a half into free agency, you're complaining we haven't acquired anybody yet?
     
  6. Bojangles

    Bojangles Contributing Member

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    I hope it's like that. The Rockets have a track record of making fairly respectable deals. The Texans... not so much.

    I do hope (and mostly agree) that we'll make a few more moves before it's all said and done. The off season is indeed still young.
     
  7. rezdawg

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    Considering the contracts that are being dished out, Im thankful the Texans arent involved.

    The one signing we did have was great value.
     
  8. Fulgore

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    When have the Texans ever made a splash in free agency? Dont get too upset over it but I understand how you feel. A 2011 3rd rd pick for Cromartie I would have jumped on that deal in a heartbeat.
     
  9. ryan17wagner

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    Yawn.
     
  10. david_rocket

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    They already did something:

    resigned WR Kevin Walter
    resigned to a one-year deal the punter Matt Turk who averaged 42.8 yards per punt.

    they will pick a CB in the draft, and other defensive player.
    they just need to resign guys like OD, Ryans, Pollard and get a good RB, and they are good for next season
     
  11. meh

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    So who's left?

    If you're going to deride the OP for his premature post, at least formulate a list of potential FA that the Texans could still pick up. It's one thing to say that Peppers got stupid money, but when there's no salary cap ramifications and it's a position of need, WHY SHOULDN'T THE TEXANS SPEND STUPID MONEY?

    It's not as if McNair has no money to spend. We are only the 3rd richest franchise in the NFL. It's not as if the Yankees or the Red Sox keep screwing themselves by overpaying FA left and right.
     
  12. doboyz

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    There's no cap this year, but the cap will be back when they knock out the next cba. I didn't see any of these guys sign one year deals.
     
  13. meh

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    It's called frontload contract.
     
  14. Cannonball

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    That's part of it. If you go out and start giving away huge multi year deals left and right, it could very likely come back and bite you in the ass when the cap comes back. Much easier to give overpay for one year rentals in an uncapped year.
     
  15. wallyj12

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    I did provide a list potential players the Texans could go after that fit us, and that was only for one and two positions.

    Yea its pretty funny how some people are like the no cap thing is going to last forever. Like another poster said, a new CBA will be formed and the cap will be back into place. So say we did spend about 75 million extra this year on free agents, draft picks, incoming trades, etc. what exactly are we going to do when the salary cap is back into place and we are 70 million over?

    This tidbit from an online article pretty much sums it up:

    http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2010/1/27/1271547/money-for-everyone-and-other-myths
     
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    http://www.battleredblog.com/2010/2/23/1266423/the-uncapped-season-collective
     
  17. Cannonball

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    Yes, what a player makes in a given year and what his cap number is are 2 different things. Mario Williams got paid $2.8 million this year but counted $7.4 million against the cap. Okoye got paid $600K but counted $2.5 mil against the cap. Antonio Smith got paid $15 mil but counted $5 mil against the cap.
     
  18. david_rocket

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    well Wade Smith (OL) visited the Texans on Friday,but seems he will sign with the bills.

    I read somewhere that the texans really pursued Chester Taylor, but he signed with the Lions.

    So if the texans doesnt make a big sign, doesnt mean they arent doing stuff in this offseason.

    The main goal is to sign their own FA, then get a good draft picks.

    and maybe sign a FA but not a big splash like some people are expecting.
     
  19. meh

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    I don't see how this change anything much. It just means you can't do ridiculously unbalanced salary structure. But nothing that indicates how a team can't spend ridiculous money. It still gives teams much more financial flexibility than otherwise with a cap.

    When I watch how Morey year after year dance around the luxury tax line, continuously control spending yet make improvements, I refuse to believe the Texans can't come up with ways to take advantage of the situation. You can say how they're shackled by rules all you want, but plenty of other NFL teams apparently can obtain talent by working the situation.
     
  20. rezdawg

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    Well, a front loaded contract is still not good when the player you have in mind is making 15 million dollars...the salary cap is still coming back the year after next.

    Peppers is making over 40 million over the first three seasons of the contract. Sure, this year is uncapped...but he's still going to be counting very heavily against the cap when it returns. That is not a good situation for Chicago...and as a result, you can bet that they will have to release some players and do some juggling to get under the cap in subsequent years.

    Its only one season of no salary cap...unless you are doing a 1 year rental, any big contracts will still come back to bite you, regardless of how you structure it.
     

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