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Why are last years Cavs better than this years Heat?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Zero2Hero, Nov 23, 2010.

  1. Zero2Hero

    Zero2Hero Member

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    I know, it's still early in the season - blah blah blah. But as of right now, last years Cavaliers are beter than this years Miami Heat. Discuss.
     
  2. RoxSqaud

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    I'd say so.
     
  3. RedRedemption

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    There is no inside game for the Heat. That's why.
     
  4. GlenRice

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    chemistry is underrated
     
  5. Zero2Hero

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    Well what inside game was there for the Cavs? Big Z? Isn't he in Miami now?
     
  6. sw847

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    think he was refering to shaq being on the cavs last year.
     
  7. MourningWood

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    Shaq Daddy, J.J. Hickson, and Andy Varejao.
     
  8. roslolian

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    Wade and Bosh aren't performing up to par. Bosh has given on his career and stopped doing anything. Wade has been exposed and definitely not playing like a superstar this season.

    Btw totally unrelated but I find it extremely funny people are still saying Wade is more deserving of an MVP than Lebron.

    1-13 from the field for 3 pts the entire game.

    LBJ must be looking at the two games he signed up with and going "WTF was I thinking signing up with these two?!" :grin:
     
  9. t_mac1

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    so we're going to crown the spurs?

    the heat won't have a great reg. season like the cavs last year. but trust me, they will go to the NBA finals.
     
  10. goodbug

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    That's not what you said, you said Heat would dominate no later than December and Cavs couldn't win 20 games.

    And you emphasized how LeBron would win 65 with scrubs like Mo Williams, now he finally has some help, no way he wins less than 70.

     
  11. MourningWood

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    I could see them toppling the Magic in a 7-game series, but they would not get past the Celtics. I'd like to see Celtics and Magic finish 1, 2 in the East, most likely forcing the Heat to go through both teams to make the Finals.
     
  12. t_mac1

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    well injuries have happened and their best rebounder is out till february. you can't predict these things. i still believe they'll go to the finals to represent the east.

    chemistry is underrated. this heat team will challenge 70 wins two or three times in the next 6 years.
     
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    Because they won like 60 games

    and people for some r****ded reason believes that Lebron was the only good player on that team
     
  14. GreatOne1978

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    Coaching. Mike Brown was an excellent defensive coach even though he was average on offense. His defensive schemes kept the team in the game if the offense was a let down and they finish it off in the 4th
     
  15. t_mac1

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    like being the best player, being the best team is about consistency. what we have seen from the heat through 14 games is huge inconsistency.

    they can go from blowing out the magic to getting blown out by an average pacer team. they can go from playing championship-caliber D to playing rockets' D. they can go from highly efficient offensively to can't even scratch 80 points.

    we've seen signs of greatness, but also signs of mediocrity. that comes with a team who has yet completely gelled. and they have other factors such as injuries going against them.

    but at the end of the day, they need more court time. and they need health. they can only get better the more they play together. and the more they play together, the more consistent they will become.
     
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    they are 5-7 right now and if you ask most people, that's OVER-ACHIEVING for that group.
     
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    It takes a while to gel.
     
  18. MourningWood

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    He was definitely the only "great" player. LeBron picked Mo Williams up by the skin of his neck and dragged him to the All-Star Game, and West, Hickson, Varejao, AP, Boobie Gibson, and Moon are all role players, and Shaq's day has clearly passed. Jamison, who was acquired later in the year, definitely underwhelmed and slipped in to mediocrity.

    James elevated a cohesive unit of shooters and scrappers to an elite level. There's a reason he's The King.
     
  19. YaoZow

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    This team of "role players" and players picked up by "The King" have only lost 1 more game than the Heat.

    That team was fully capable of winning a Championship, even more so than this year's 1st or 2nd round exit.

    Everybody wanted to make an excuse for the King when he failed yet again so they blamed the crew of a 60 win team 2 years in a row.

    By Monday, the Cavs may have a better record than the Heat.
     
  20. Zero2Hero

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    I thought this would be kind of like Team USA, each player averaging around 16-20 ppg. Instead either Lebron or Wade is scoring 30 while Bosh chips in 15 pts and 6 rebounds. Lebron should be averaging 17-9-9, Wade should be at 24-4-5 and Bosh should be at 18-10-2
     

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