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who's more tradeable: Mo T. / T.E. or Walker

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hard Rock, Jul 26, 2004.

  1. Hard Rock

    Hard Rock Member

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    Walker a Knicks?

    i meant if Walker can get you Kurt Thomas or Mohammed + Harrington (another trade proposal) why can't we try offer Mo Taylor or the T.E.?

    Walker avg. 14/8.3 @ .428% shooting in 34.6min/g
    Taylor avg. 11.5/5.1 @ .480% shooting in 27.7 min/g

    they had similar per 48min. numbers while Mo shooting @ much better fg%. Walker earns $14 millions next season compare to Mo's $9 million. yeah you might argue Taylor's contract is 2yrs longer than Walker's but if cap relief is what the Knicks want, fine, take the T.E. + 2nd rd. pick and give us Mohammed & Harrington(expiring contract). we then trade Taylor + another 2nd rd. pick for Booth + Daniels. line-up:

    Yao Ming, Booth
    Mohammed, Howard
    Jackson, Nachbar
    McGrady, Pike
    Daniels, Lue
     
  2. pasox2

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    I like it on our end. Not sure about the Knicks?

    I've read this speculation before, too, about Walker. Those were the pieces in the Damp deal. I'm not sure it helps the Knicks to just get Mo T, or Walker, for that matter, though. There has to be something else. This is just big names as media bait. Would they use Walker as a 3, and Tim Thomas at 4 ? That doesn't strike me as very helpful, but I'm not a TV programmer, or ticket salesman.

    They do have the leagues highest payroll, so bringing that down would be nice. It would be nicer if they had a center, though, I'd think, and a power forward to rebound, instead of one forced to catch and shoot the last second passes Starbury might deem to whip his way.
     
  3. Clutch

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    No question - Antoine Walker.

    Former All-Star who can score and dish and has his fat contract expire at the end of the season, potentially creating a lot of cap room (of course in the case of the Knicks they are so far over the cap it probably has no bearing).
     
  4. JuanValdez

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    I'm sure the Knicks would be happy to do both: trade some of their dead weight for Walker's expiring contract, and trade more dead weight for our TE. Then, they'd have only some dead weight left, but would probably need a couple NBDLers to fill the roster spots.

    Seriously, I'd bet they'd prefer Walker. The trade exception gives them cap relief quicker, but Walker will give you some production. Taylor gives you that too, but too much of it -- or rather for too long. Walker is the happy medium between Taylor and the TE.
     
  5. Deuce

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    Agreed. Walker, no question.
     
  6. choujie

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    MoT is a one dimensional player, Walker is a triple double threat. Walker's FG% actually is not that bad considering he shoots way too many 3s.

    Walker's contract is expiring while MoT still has 3 years left. The fact Bobcats didn't pick up MoT for nothing really showed us he is having zero to negative trading value.

    Not even close.
     
  7. Hard Rock

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    triple double threat? Walker is 2 rebounds and 3 assists better then Mo if both play 34.6min/g. he's also making $5millions more than Mo.

    actually Walker's contract expires after another season while Mo's last 2 more seasons than Walker's. like I said if cap relief is what the Knicks seeking then our T.E. gives them what they want immideately.



    sometimes a T.E. alone is more vauleable than a "former All-Star" with a $14 millions contract (even for 1 year).
    btw, Taylor scored more points/48min. than Walker last season on a much much better fg% (.480 v.s. .426)
     
  8. codell

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    Not a huge fan of his, but Walker is definitely better trade bait.

    No question.
     
  9. yipengzhao

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    walker is much more versatile than MoT.

    neither is going to be the solution for the Knicks... because they don't need soft, 6-9 PFs that don't rebound. they need an athletic guy or a banger.
     
  10. jkg123

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    Probably time for you to change your signature. While I wanted Barry, too, it just looks old and tired now.
     
  11. gucci888

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    Bingo. There are a couple teams that could use his services, there are even more teams that could use his expiring contract.
     
  12. Clutch

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    You make it sound as if Mo Taylor is as versatile as Antoine Walker if he was given the same number of minutes. That's really not close to being the case. Walker is a much better passer and rebounder and is a much better pick-pocket than Taylor.

    If Taylor could even approach bigger minutes, maybe there would be some sense in making the comparisons based on a per-minute basis. However, in 216 career games with the Rockets, Mo Taylor has averaged about 25.6 minutes a night. He has played 40 or more minutes in a grand total of 7 of those 216 contests. In contrast, Cuttino Mobley and Steve Francis practically <I>averaged</I> 40 minutes per.

    Jeff Van Gundy took a center with limited to no offensive skills and decided to start him out of position ahead of Taylor. That should say something to us because that (and his contract) certainly is speaking volumes right now to prospective buyers.
     
  13. choujie

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    Walker had back to back triple doubles last season. And I don't recall Mo got close to triple doulbe in his career. In fact, double double is rare for MoT. He only had 3 last season.


    And 14mil caps after one season plus a much more productive player is no question a whole lot better than 6.9mil cap space plus 27mil bad contract for 3 more year.
     
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    I agree, good point.

    In a different thread I suggested a Taylor for P.J. Brown swap---I think that would put a smile on JVG's face in term's of what he wants from the PF position. Brown is one of the toughest players in the league as well as a good defender. There's no doubt in my mind if CD would do this trade.

    However, I realize New Orleans probably wouldn't be interested plus, its unlikely because of the conference re-alignments. But with the possibility of Mashburn being on the shelf again, it makes you wonder who is going to to score them points besides Davis and Magloire?
     
  15. m_cable

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    Well at least besides Davis. Magloire's offense isn't anything to write home about. It was the baron that was a one-man gang offensively last year for the hornets with mash out.
     

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