Nique is in the Hall of Fame. I guess they think Vince will go to the Hall of Fame cause winning Dunk Contests > doing well in the playoffs.
if you're stating this as a fact, then you are wrong. if you're saying this to harrass people in favor of vince, then shame on you.
Hey question, who lead the league in scoring in 1986 with 30 points /game? Hint, he's not that soft player in New Jersey.
I was thinking about getting one of those memory foam pillows, but I'm looking for something softer, like a VC feathered pillow. Its so soft, it makes you feel like you are sleeping on a cloud or sleeping during an NBA game while playing for the Nets.
they've got all this red carpet when you're induced to the hall, you know. so there's enough softness in the hall. lol. carter just has lot his care, passion and drive (like many others) at the later stage of his career imo. not a good example of "soft".
In terms of what? If you are talking about dunking, I would vote for VC. But that's just personal preference. If you are talking about overall game, Nique wins hands down.
Not really. Stop looking back through rose colored glasses. I'd think a contributing member would provide some sort of objective evidence instead of an insult. People will point to Nique's scoring first - so I'll address that. There's more to scoring than just PPG. Wilkins played in a faster paced system and took more shots than Carter. He was also the less efficient scorer (career EFG < Carter's). He put up more points in a faster system (Both NJ and Toronto have been among the slowest paced teams in the NBA with Carter) on worse efficiency. Nique was a better rebounder. He was also among the worst playmakers at his position ever considering how much he handled the ball. When someone with a career usage rate greater than 30 can't even rack up 3 apg and turns the ball over more than he passes it... that's not a good sign. Wilkins was more of a turnover prone black hole than Zack Randolph. Carter isn't known for his defense. Carter's defense is tantamount to Pippen's when comparing him to Nique. He is the only superstar in NBA history to put up multiple DWS ~4; not even Iverson stooped to that level. As far as individual peaks, Nique never had a season approaching Carter's in 99-00, 00-01, and 04-05 (in Jersey). All the way across the board (PER,OWS,DWS,WS,DR) Carter holds the clear advantage. He simply had a more dominant peak. Longevity goes to Nique simply because he kept it up for ~12 years, but Carter is probably going to exceed that. He's coming off of an 11th season where he was the best 2 guard in the East statistically. He isn't showing signs of slowing down and he's healthy. IMO Carter is the Nique of this generation simply because they are extremely athletic explosive scorers. Nique may have been a slightly higher volume scorer, but Carter holds virtually every other advantage save for rebounding.
That's funny, Carter statistically has been better than Nique in the playoffs. He also has advanced past the first round more times than Deke. Before you say Carter had more help, in 2000-01 Carter pushed to a game 7 against the eventual EC champs with one of the crappiest supporting casts all time. He had (1) player who scored above 10 ppg (Antonio Davis - a big shooting 43% from the field) to help him get there. Some of the arguments you guys are making are nonsensical. Nique was a better all-around player than Carter? Nique had done more in the playoffs? Ridiculous.
I would vote The Human Highlight Film for both dunking AND overall game. But, I was born and raised in Atlanta so I may be biased. 'Nique threw it down so hard sometimes I thought he was going to pull the rim off.
Carter also didnt go against the level of competition that Dominique did. The Bird, McHale, Parish Celtics, The Bad Boys Pistons teams, and this guy called Michael Jordan and his Chicago Bulls...
great analysis. I still lean to Nique, but this is a very sound argument that they are closer than I would have thought.
The baby Bulls, Bucks, Pistons, and Celtics regularly trashed the Hawks in the playoffs until 86 (finally weren't the underdogs in the first round but got crushed facing the Pistons) and that miracle run in 87 (got eliminated by the Celtics). Outside of '87, Nique would choke in the playoffs. His stats would go down across the board and his teams would get crushed.
