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Who'll Be This Year's Big Bust?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by emjohn, Jun 30, 2005.

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Who's your pick for Bust '05?

  1. Bogut

    72 vote(s)
    28.1%
  2. M Williams

    11 vote(s)
    4.3%
  3. D Williams

    10 vote(s)
    3.9%
  4. C Paul

    5 vote(s)
    2.0%
  5. R Felton

    10 vote(s)
    3.9%
  6. M Webster

    14 vote(s)
    5.5%
  7. C Villaneuva

    87 vote(s)
    34.0%
  8. C Frye

    34 vote(s)
    13.3%
  9. They're all going to be just fine

    13 vote(s)
    5.1%
  1. emjohn

    emjohn Member

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    Always got have at least one in the top 8 picks:
    2004 - 8. Tor - Rafael Araujo
    2003 - 2. Det - Darko Milic
    2002 - 2. Chi - Jay Williams
    2001 - 1. Was - Kwame Brown
    2000 - 4. Chi - Marcus Fizer
    1999 - 5. Rap - Jonathan Bender (traded to Ind, yeah he's been around that long)
    1998 - 1. LAC - Michael Olowakandi
    1997 - 5. Den - Tony Battie
    1996 - 7. LAC - Lorenzen Wright
    1995 - 1. GSW - Joe Smith
    1994 - 6. Phi - Sharone Wright
    1993 - 2. Phi - Shawn Bradley
    1992 - 8. Mil - Todd Day
    1991 - 3. Sac - Billy Owens
    1990 - 6. Min - Felton Spencer
    1989 - 1. Sac - Pervis Ellison
    1988 - 7. Pho - Tim Perry
    1987 - 3. NJN - Dennis Hopson
    1986 - 3. GSW - Chris Washburn (I'm leaving Bias alone)
    1985 - 5. Atl - John Koncak

    Who will it be this year?

    Evan
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Bogut looks like a stiff. I also never saw the potential in Marvin Williams that everyone else did. To me he just seems like an athletic 6'9" dude. They're a dime a dozen in the NBA.
     
  3. Bullard4Life

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    Channing Frye. Isaiah's touch of death has made this an absolute certainty.
     
  4. juicystream

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    Frye, Villanueva, Bogut, and maybe Felton(I think he was only the #4 guard in the draft behind Jack, but I am a Tech fan)
     
  5. SuperS32

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    Wow - I can't wait to show you that quote in a couple years when Williams and Bogut are stars. After all - "athletic 6'9" dudes" NEVER do well in the NBA, and yes, 7'1" centers with passing/shooting/rebounding ability could never succeed in the NBA :rolleyes:
     
  6. foodworld

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    Bogut - the right pick. But is he too slow-footed to guard opposing NBA centers? Will he be a foul machine?
    Deron Williams - why on earth was he picked over Chris Paul? A Delonte West clone (which isn't bad, but...)
    Frye - the next Loren Woods. Will be a foul machine at center, which he'll have to play on the undersized Knicks.
    Villanueva - a tweener with no room in his team's rotation. Overrated athleticism.
    McCants - the next Joe Forte. Probably won't be able to play point guard in the NBA.
    Warrick - he just isn't a good basketball player.
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Don't misquote me . I didn't make either of those statements. I never said 6'9" athletic dudes didn't do well, I just wrote they were a dime a dozen. To clarify, I haven't seen what separates him from the others. What skills does he have?

    As far as Bogut, I never said he couldn't do those things, he still looks like a stiff.
     
  8. emjohn

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    I'm also going to say that I haven't seen anything yet that makes me believe Marvin Williams is a can't miss All-Star. Maybe I'm just missing it. He might be another KG or Odom mold verstaile forward. Maybe he's a tweener that'll go the way of Jonathon Bender. Maybe I'm just disappointed that I won't see him destroy people with UNC.

    Evan
     
  9. Toast

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    Yup. He's just not a big enough body to bang with NBA centers. I mean, yeah, most of today's NBA centers were yesterday's power forwards, but still, he's gonna have to add some SERIOUS muscle if he's not gonna get thrown around on a daily basis.
     
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    Frye. He's this year's workout warrior/player bust. And he's playing in NY, so he'll certainly hear it if he doesn't get a good start.
     
  11. Stack24

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    For 2002 i would definently pick Nikoloz Tskitishvili over Williams. Jay Williams was playing great until he was a fool and hurt himself. If your basing him being a bust based on outside factors then that's fine but over all basketball bust would have to be Nikoloz Tskitishvili then Dejuan Wagner after him.
     
  12. JamesC

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    Honestly I've been thinking the same thing. When I saw North Carolina play the players I noticed were May, McCants, Felton even Jawad Williams. Marvin Williams never jumped out at me, granted he was only a freshman.
     
  13. apostolic3

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    I don't remember Jay Williams playing that well. Seems like he was in Cartwright's doghouse and everyone in their organization was very disappointed in him. Prior to the draft, he was described by many as a very safe bet to be a star. Draft pundits were scratching their heads. The accident was a "frying pan to the fire" experience for him because his short NBA career was such a disappointment.
     
  14. Hakeem06

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    mccants and joe forte comparison is right on cue. both were very good scorers in college but were undersized and didn't have the necessary strength at the 2 in the nba. plus, they are one dimensional. can't rebound, handle, pass, or defend. everyone in the nba is capable of putting up 20 a game but can you do something else to help your team???

    i think villanueva will contribute nothing to raptors and bogut will be okay in milwaukee but not worthy of a #1 pick. i think a lot of these players will be "busts" because so many people keep saying that this draft is "deep" which is a crock of ****. there aren't too many players in this draft that will do much at the next level. and a lot of those "solid" 2nd round picks won't be on a team in 3 years. so there will be a lot of "busts" because no one is really going to get the value of their pick in this draft.
     
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    I agree on McCants. Hell, our very own #24 pick shut his ass down in the 2nd half of the final game.
     
  16. Chuck04

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    You may not have said Bogut won't succeed, but looks can be very deceiving. He is nowhere near the stereotypical "big, white stiff". If he is a stiff, then according to most experts so is Brad Miller and Vlade Divac, both of whom Bogut has been favourably compared to.

    As for the top-eight bust - I'm going with Torontos pick, Villeneuva.
     
  17. apostolic3

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    Gotta go with Charlie Villaneuva. I'm not sold on Marvin Williams as an NBA star either but CV has bust written all over him. Toronto's GM is the new Weisbrod.
     
  18. lalala902102001

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    The guy with the top bust potential is Marvin Williams. Atlanta is jut a bad fit for him. Besides, this guy couldn't even start for his college team.
    Webster may also be a bust. It's tough for high school kids to jump to the NBA, especially if your team is the jailblazers.
     
  19. richirich

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    Surprised no one mentioned our very own Eddie Griffin or are we just too tired of beating that dead horse? :D
     
  20. drpepper

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    Eddie was on course of having a GOOD carreer until the shooting incedent. That isn't a Bust IMO. As far as this crop is concerned, they would have to be Chris Paul and Channing Frye. Why?


    Chris is a great talent, don't get me wrong. But his size and lack of speed will hurt him in the NBA. I'm not saying he won't be good, but not 4th pick in the draft "expectation" good. He doesn't have Iverson or Francis speed and explosiveness that one might expect at that pick. And he's not the playmaker and shooter Bibby was either. He is very sound, but at six feet, a little early for my taste. Plus, he's kinda a head case as many have witnessed with his temper and frustration has surfaced on occasion. I would have liken him as an 6-8 pick, really. Francis was tempered in the ACC as well, but also more explosive and intriguring. Chris seems to me like a smaller less athletic Francis.

    Frye should have been a 9-13 pick. he never really stood out until his last days at Arizona when they reached the final four. His size helped them get there, don't get me wrong, but in the NBA he'll go up against centers every night just as big. Thats where his lack of skills will surface. He should have dominated the game against Illinois like May did, but didn't. He was not as aggressive as he could have been so the team realied to heavy on their perimeter players which prevented them from advancing.
     

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