personally I like Karl. i know that there was no way of knowing he would be available (he shouldn't be, the guy is one of the best coaches in my opinion). no offense to JVG, he's a really good coach as well, but JVG did all of that with Pat Riley's team and a budget that was limitless. anyway, who do y'all like?
Wasn't it Karl that coached the losing US team? Why would you want that? He can't win with the Olympic team, yet you want him to be our coach? AND he ran the Bucks straight into oblivion...If we had him as our coach...lottery, here we come!
I'd rather have JVG. What has Karl done since he had a loaded Sonic team? Run a franchise into the ground? Alienate all his players? Lose the olympics? NO THANKS.
Karl hasn't won in the last several seasons and all his star players hated playing for him. Ray Allen, Cassell, Glen Robinson, Tim Thomas...that' not a good sign. And as many have mentioned he was the coach of the U.S. team that lost 3 or 4 games in the World Championships last year. Hell no to Karl.
Karl cant be blamed for the USA Team's colapse. Well, he should shoulder some of the blame but USA Basketball and NBA players are just as responsible if not moreso than Karl. The fact that he was chosen to be the coach of the USA Team shows how he is regarded around the league. The guy also had the problem of trying to deal with a bunch of pansies in Milwaukee. When I wrote this I was referring to the Sonics Karl, the smothering defense and fast break offense that I think this team is capable of running and probably fits this team. the style of D that Karl employed against Hakeem would work to neutralize any of the big men currently in the west. Plus the fact is that the guy has history of coaching more than one already loaded team. Believe me, I am not trying to get rid of JVG or saying he wont succeed, we need JVG to be the man for this job. I just wish that there was more of a reason for me like him. Atleast Karl has been around for quite some time. the point of this thread is just to pass the time, i just read an article about Karl and it got me to thinking.
Karl is (actually was) a great coach. He has done nothing lately. Great on the defensive side and fastbreak offense. The only reason I would not even consider him is because he alienates his players big time. He will publicaly embarss them to get a point across. Most of the time the tactic backfires. I remeber he tried to blame Ray Allen and Cassell for something in Milwaukee, but the players did not appreciate it one bit.
I 100% agree with what y'all are saying about him alienating his players, but this article I read on ESPN really made me do a 180. he basically said that he only questioned his players when they wouldnt put forth the effort he requires, and that the one thing he regrets is not being able to get along with Allen. let me flip the script on yall though, what about JVG makes yall like him so much?
I still don't get the fascination. He's still riding on the coattails of that loaded underachieving Sonic team. He had the best pg in the game, a top 5 pf(at least) at the time, top 5 sf, a damn good sg in Hawkins, and a loaded bench. And what happens? He makes it to the finals once. ONCE. And gets tossed in the first round twice. Way to maximize your talent Karl. Then he gets a loaded Milwaulkee team. Not as loaded as the sonics mind you, but loaded enough for the east. He takes them to the ECF while they still buy into him, then he can't get them to play anymore? lotto-ville, break the team up for crap, wtf? Yeah that's exactly the kind of coach we need. And losing in the olympics was mostly him imo. A real coach would have found a way to get the vastly superior players he had to play as a team. And him getting elected to the olympics was an old decision, I'm sure they would have picked someone else had they waited, but no, they announced it right after the season he went to the ecf with mil. Kinda like the situation with Vin Baker on the olympic team: neither deserved to be there. In conclusion: over-rated.
I like that he is very fiery. I like that he gets his players to buy into what he is preaching. I like his loyalty to his players, and his emphasis on d. Last but not least, I like the fact that he is new. In some ways he's a very similar coach to Rudy imo, but he'll be more stern and hopefully command more respect.
Thats exactly what differentiates Van Gundy from Karl. Van Gundy's players love him. I dont think anyone loves George Karl. And if you dont respect and love your coach you are not going to listen to him.
Coaches that should have coached the summer team instead of Karl: Jerry Sloan Don Nelson Poppovich Riley Brown Jackson Silas Flip Saunders
To me, it's just a lesser of two evils. I hated JVG's Knicks, but I hated even more Karl's Bucks. The Bucks had a good team that suddenly tanked.
Thank you. My thoughts exactly. Even reading the name George Karl still has the power to make me vomit. You have to understand, back in the early nineties I hated the Sonics with a passion. Far more than we would later hate the Jazz or Knicks or Spurs. I hated the Sonics. I hated the whole city of Seattle. The state of Washington. I hated John Lithgow and Harry and the Hendersons and 3rd Rock from the Sun. Frikkin' George Karl. I remember, back when Rudy was fired, my first thought was: QUICK! We must find a new coach before George Karl is fired!!!!! Thank God we got Gundy in time. Othwerwise we'd have George Karl, John Lithgow, the devil. Okay, trying to calm down now . . .
