But 4chuckie... when SirCharles went down last year the rebounding went up. There is a chemistry to this team that needs to redefine typical rebounding approaches. I don't have the luxury of alot of games on tape. But why did Francis get > 5 rpg last year? Was he floating on defense? Did Rudy's defense place priority on the other teams outside shooters (and thus outside defensive players to pick up the ball)? ------------------ I've posted so much that what I say must be true. The latest on Maurice Taylor
The Rockets where a soid rebounding team last year, with a much smaller KT. Rebounding isnt a problem for us. ------------------ Jackie Treehorn treats objects like women!
We will do just fine in the rebounding department. Remember, Olajuwon and KT are our best rebounders. Kenny will still get a lot of time next year I'm sure.
4chuckie: I don't expect miracles, but I wouldn't be surprised if Rudy can raise Mo's average to 8 per game... not great, but respectable. Cato is still a project, but if he can also grab 8 as well (shouldn't be difficult for someone his size and awe-inspiring physical state) then we might be alright. Sure, we wouldn't have the best rebounding front court, but I don't think it would be an achilles heel either. Of course, it's always a risky proposition to relying on the improvement of others over previous exhibitions . BTW, Miller did board very well in the minutes he was given last year. ------------------ Shandon Anderson rocks. The lottery sucks. Playoffs 2001.
Well, one theory is that our front court didn't board as well as they could have because our backcourt boards so well. A myth is that the Rockets suck on the boards. Look at these percentages from some playoff teams: MIN .509 PHI .503 PHO .503 TOR .502 CHA .500 MIL .499 NYC .497 IND .491 DET .492 SEA .488 SAC .486 The Rockets rebounding percentage was .508 which is as good, or nearly as good as these 11 playoff teams. The other 5 playoff teams were higher, with Portland leading at .524. Notice Indiana in the finals with only a .491. The glaring stat is turnovers. Only Chicago (19.0) turned the ball over more than Houston (17.4). I'm not concern with who rebounds, so long as we don't get beaten on the boards on a nightly basis. ------------------ "There's 1,000 different things we're looking at, but there's not a lot of things there." -- Rudy T., apparently after taking a hit of acid.
What about playing Taylor at the 3, Cato at the 4, and Olajuwon at the 5. Taylor is not a good rebounder by power forward standards, but 6.5 rebounds a game for a small forward is pretty good. ------------------ You ain't gotta like me, you just mad cause I tell it how it is, and you tell it how it might be.
Huh? That's pretty funny NewJack... but he got 6.5 boards per game playing the low block and defending other PFs. If he starts defending other SFs why do you expect his rebounding to remain at 6.5? ------------------ I've posted so much that what I say must be true. The latest on Maurice Taylor
New Jack: Taylor doesn't have the requisite jump shot, posts too much, and he's too slow to guard the 3. BTW, by banging the offensive boards, doesn't Stevie jeopardize the defense by not getting back? ------------------ Shandon Anderson rocks. The lottery sucks. Playoffs 2001. [This message has been edited by haven (edited August 25, 2000).]
Just an idea. I think he would have the athleticism to play the small forward position. It would be kind of like what Portland did a few years ago with Grant at the 4 and Wallace at the small forward position. Taylor might not be able to get 6.5 rpg playing the small forward, but I still think he would be a better rebounder then the majority of the small forwards in the league. ------------------ You ain't gotta like me, you just mad cause I tell it how it is, and you tell it how it might be.
haven, that's if everyone is crashing the boards. It doesn't say anywhere that the PG is the one that has to get back. It's the responsibility of the PG, SG, and SF to make sure one of them gets back. ------------------ "I'll drop kick those f*ckin' dogs if they come anywhere near me." visit www.swirve.com
oops RM95 beat me to it. Haven, not necessarily. It was very obvious to me at the games that Mobley and Walt's role were to backpedal on every offensive shot, so that Francis could bang the glass. SA also was put in positions to get junk boards. Francis was definitely given the green light, and other's were told to backpedal. [This message has been edited by heypartner (edited August 25, 2000).]
"I hope no one's forgetting that Hakeem will start, not Cato..." If Olajuwon starts (instead of Cato), it will be a ceremonial starting position because Cato should be starting. ------------------ Forget regrets or life is yours to miss.
Who needs to OFFENSIVE rebound when the ball is always going in the hoop? When the Rockets won their 2 championships, they were actually a LOUSY rebounding team. Even with Hakeem and OT. Rebounding is an overated stat. The team that scores the most wins, not the team with the most rebounds. Kids !! Sheesh !! DaDakota ------------------ All you MO-FO's better stop ripping off my lines !!
University Blue: I think you might be underselling Hakeem. Nobody knows what his health will be like, but unless Cato learned a jump shot and a sense of timing on blocks over the summer, a remotely healthy Hakeem is still the better center. ------------------ Shandon Anderson rocks. The lottery sucks. Playoffs 2001.
DaDakota...slightly simplistic, and a 100% frisky. 2nd Chance attempts in the 4th quarter are very often, death blows. And those attempts are coming from the other team concentrating too much on the scorer, and vacating the rebounding lanes. So yes, I agree that OFF rebounds are often opportunistic in nature, but don't ever make the argument that Shandon is a good rebounder again, cause you'd be contradicting that frisky post above. Let's just say we want 100% hustle. So maybe the thread title should be: "Who will Hustle"....and replace all occurrances of "rebound" with "hustle" [This message has been edited by heypartner (edited August 25, 2000).]
here...let me do the search and replace to see if this makes more sense. ------------------ who has tickets [This message has been edited by heypartner (edited August 25, 2000).]
Oooohhhhh. Now I get it. Okay, we're screwed. Our front court hustlers won't see much time: Rogers, Miller (if he gets signed). In the backcourt, you got Moochie, Francis and Anderson. You might throw Mobley in there too. ------------------ "There's 1,000 different things we're looking at, but there's not a lot of things there." -- Rudy T., apparently after taking a hit of acid.
francis was the #1 offensive rebounding guard in the entire NBA last season. it wasn't him floating on defense. it was him attacking on offense - looking for a put back or following his shot. ...sorry...didn't read all the posts.... nvrmnd... ------------------ miles ahead of the rest [This message has been edited by verse (edited August 25, 2000).]
The Rockets were tied for 8th in rebounding in the league w/SA, who ofcourse has the twin towers. That tells me that the Rockets are good overall rebounding team, unlike past years when it was only Hakeem, then Hakeem,Clyde and Charles. For the first time we have guards that help out on the boards. I think everyone is getting a little to nervous about rebounding. We'll be fine. ------------------
