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Who will be more effective against the zone defense? Webber or Taylor

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RocketSiv, Apr 16, 2001.

  1. RocketSiv

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    Just curious about this. Webber is probably the more talented of the two, no denying that, but under the new zone defense rules who will be more effective? Webber has the advantage in the rebounding and defensive prowess and he also has the edge on the fast break. However Taylor has his little outside shot which is the key to his game. Webber has an outside shot but rely's more on post-up. One would have to think if Shaq is supposedly going to have trouble posting up with the new rules Webber would to.

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    Webber is much better than Mo against a zone... If Webber does post up, and the other team sends 3 guys after him, Webber will eat them alive with his passing skills... He is probably the best passing PF after maybe Wallace or Malone...

    Mo Taylor can't pass worth a s#it... Mo has a decent handle, but Webber's is better...

    I really don't know what aspect that Mo has an advantage on over Webber...

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  3. haven

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    Webber would be more effective in any offense, any situation, and in any league. Webber's an MVP candidate, and I'm not sure it's *possible* to imagine him in an undesirable situation, anymore... short of the Memphis Grizzlies.

    If the Rockets acquire Webber, it will be difficult for the zone to work well against them, as I see it, because of Francis and Mobley. Double teaming any one of them would just allow the two other to be wide open. I know Seattle's zone (yes, it was a zone) was effective against Hakeem and Clyde... but I think that was partly because Hakeem was such a rhythm player. Webber would be less disrupted by it.

    Besides, Webber can hit jumpers.

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    Where in the heck did you get that? Do you even watch the games? Imho, Mo is one of the better passing PF's in the game behind those at the top like Webber, KG, Duncan, etc. While he doesn't record a ton of assists of the Rockets system (neither does anyone, including our PG), his passing instincts seem very good out of the low post and I don't see him throw many away at all...

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    Do you watch the games, Cat? I think if there's a knock on his passing, it's his careless passes. It seems like for every nice pass he throws he also throws one away.

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    Yes, of course I watch the games, but I sure haven't seen a lot of these so called "careless passes"...

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    Cat is absolutely right. One of the reasons the Rockets aquired Mo was his passing skills.

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  8. pooh222

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    I feel overall, Webber, flat out is a better player than Taylor, period. I've noticed Webber shooting the outside shot better, probably as good if not better than Mo. And it's no contest as to who's the better post-up player. Webber no doubt would be better against the zone because simply he's a better player. This being said, I still feel we are going to end up keeping Taylor because Webber, I feel, isn't coming here. For what Taylor does, he fits well in this system, but I would take Webber over him any day.

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    Mo is an excellent passer. Don't believe me or The Cat? Here's a quote from CD "One thing we failed to mention is that Mo's also an excellent passer, he likes the fact our philosophy is the open man gets the ball and you never have to worry in our offense. He just fits." Found that in an old thread. Have a link too, but freaking nba.com had to delete some of their archives.

    As far as who will be more effective, Webber is still and probably always will be the better overall player, no denying that. However, considering Mo will cost half as much, the better value would be up for grabs.

    In a completely unrelated Mo note, We are 1-4 when Mo grabs double digit boards.

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    Mo has only grabbed double digit boards in 5 games this year? That's not good for your power forward.

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    I wonder how many games our backcourt has outrebounded our frontcourt in...

    seriously, both Webber and Taylor are good passing forwards. I don't see much of an advantage there, although I haven't seen as much of Webber as Taylor.

    The Cat: Taylor *is* careless from time to time. That's not because he's not a good passer, but just because his mind seems to be elsewhere from time to time. If I had to criticize his passing... that would be it. He still has a flair for getting the ball to an open man, and not turning it over when he's thinking.

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    This is a good question. Leaving aside the fact that Taylor sucks and that we are talking about two Michigan alumni, I think Webber'd be the more effective player.

    Taylor always strikes me as the kind of offensive player who likes the ball, and can score, in very specific ways; Webber in my opinion is more versatile.

    I think we should acquire Jim Jackson. And Lawrence Funderburke.
     
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    I think Mo's agent will be quick to point out that a sharp-shooting power forward like Mo will demand a high price in the new-look NBA.

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    C-Webb consistently makes nice passes out of the double team, while Mo is a good passer but keep in mind he is very rarely in the post, double-temed like C-Webb.
    My theory on a great player is they will be great no matter what system they are in. Let me use Barkley as an example.
    In Philly he didn't have much of an outside game at all (he never really did develop a 3-point shor did he [​IMG] , he liked to penetrate and was developing a low post game. He scored alot of his points from hustling tor o-rebounds.
    He went to Phoenix and became their low post threat with Majerle and Ainge as shooters and KJ & Ceballos as slashers.
    Finally he came here and he kind of went back to his Philly days where he was counted on to board but at times he went to his Phoenix days where he was the low post threat.
    My point is great players can flourish anywhere with any rule so C-webb is and always will be better then Mo.
     
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    First of all salary wise I'm with Mo, job done in the paint, C-webb got an edge, outside shots, Mo shoot better percentage,rebound, C-webb is monster,passing,Mo is a lot better. [​IMG]
    Keep MO!!!!

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    I think Mo's agent will be quick to point out that a sharp-shooting power forward like Mo will demand a high price in the new-look NBA.

    A sharp shooting PF with the range to shoot over a zone will be valuable. Unfortunately, Taylor is more of a mid range shooter.


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