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Who/what can you trade Head for and why is he/it more useful to Rockets than Head?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Aug 7, 2008.

  1. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Member

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    I kept on reading people commenting on Daryl Morey must dump Head next or express surprise that he wasn't dealt before Novak was. I can't figure out why. Specifically, I can't figure out how dumping Head for either (1) a player that another team would reasonably trade for Head or (2) no salary coming back (maybe some draft considerations) would help the Rockets.

    I see three options:

    1. Stand pat: You pay Head $1.9 million to be injury insurance to Ron/Tracy/Barry/Batter(though Shane is rarely injured). Head has at least proven adequate to get some regular season minutes and knows the system. No, he isn't great, but I don't see how having him on the bench deep in the depth chart hurt the team if he doesn't play. If there is an injury and he is in line to get minutes, I don't see how not having Head to turn to helps the team. Presumably, if there is a better option than Head on the roster, Adelman would give that guy minutes and Head won't be there to hurt the team. If there isn't a better option than Head, then not having Head wouldn't help since you would be turning to a worse option.

    2. Trade him for another player: The people who are screaming "GIVE HEAD!" never said who they can get Head for. So, if you have a target in mind, tell me who that guy is and how that guy would be more useful than Head. As far as I know, given his salary, the guy you get for Head is not going to be anything other than a deep-bench type and will be as flawed as Head, if not more so.

    3. Trade him for no player coming back: You save Les some dough, but how does not having Head as insurance help the team? Any draft consideration you get will be minimal. Again, neither cash savings or future draft consideration you get will help the team win this year.

    Of course, there is simply cutting him and eat the salary... or negotiate a buyout for part of that salary. Both would be just worse version of option 3.


    Explain to me how trading Head helps the Rockets.
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Keep him, unless you can somehow get a PG instead.

    DD
     
  3. saleem

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    It doesn't because you aren't likely to get anything better for him. He is also a regular season insurance for an old player like Brent Barry.
     
  4. tinman

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    he could be the modern day Scotty Brooks.
     
  5. Mac#5

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    you make some good points i never thought of it like that
     
  6. aussie rocket

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    Unless we can package him with, for example Hayes, then he's not worthwhile trading.
     
  7. Batman Jones

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    I'm fine with keeping him for practice and regular season injury insurance, but that guy should never set foot in a playoff game again with a Rockets jersey on. He's a slightly below average, deep bench role player in the regular season, but in the playoffs he's the definition of choke. I'd rather have Ryan Bowen or Terence Morris when it comes to the playoffs (just to spend fouls). I think we could probably work out a way to use up a playoff roster space on them instead of Head. Better yet, just give the slot to Mike Harris. With Alston, Barry, Brooks, McGrady, Artest and Battier, we're not exactly short on guards.
     
  8. Yao4REAL

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    I think Head is a pretty good shooter. Two years ago....he was like automatic and i thought i am seeing Peja out there. Sure he didn't play great in the Playoffs...but i think he can light it up and this team needs it. If they can keep him, they should...
     
  9. LoveRoxHateJazz

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    We should not trade Head. We wont get anything worthwhile.

    He is what you call thir...fourth string. His contract is small and doesn't really hurt the books. If we needed his spot, we would buy him out.

    Until then, he is insurance.

    I hate myself for posting in this thread. I hate it.
     
  10. Batman Jones

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    Players that are ahead of him in consideration for a playoff roster spot:

    Yao, McGrady, Alston, Artest, Scola, Battier, Barry, Brooks, Landry, Mutombo, Hayes, Dorsey and, IMO, Harris. And maybe Francis. That's 13 or 14.

    And I think that, given Yao and Landry's chance of injury and Deke's age, we're better off spending an insurance spot on a big than a famous choker of a guard.

    There are 3-4 players ahead of him for PG and 3-4 players ahead of him for SG.

    I don't care if we keep him. But if we keep him and waive a clutch player like Mike Harris it will be a shame.
     
  11. ambrose86

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    wow....what an astute observation!
     
  12. doublebogey

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    Why trade Head? I am no Head lover (actually a hater), but I think Head will have a good sesaon - contract year.

    2 positions the Rockets need to shore up - small quick 1/2 and veteran backup 5.

    1/2:

    Francis - Will he be back by the start of season? Unlikely.

    Brooks - Very suspicious to get the team into offense sets; 2 many shot clock violations; can break down defense with his dribble; his defense is miserable - opponents always have clean look of basket and shoot over him; can back him down easily.

    That leaves the Rockets with Alston and Head.

    If the Rockets trade Head, Morey needs to find at least one 1/2 for matchup and backup purposes.

    It's hard to trade for the same position.

    Head's production is OK with his salary.
     
  13. agentkirb87

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    The only possible trade where we win is if we package him with another player (Hayes, Landry, Brooks, whoever) and trade him to a team that is rebuilding and severely lacking in talent, but has a solid old guy that still has game and the rebuilding team wants to unload him because he's not a part of there future. I can't really think of a team in that situation where the old guy in question isn't badly overpaid.
     
  14. MaxRider

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    trade him for a trade exception
    we need to save money for Landry, Mutombo, and Dorsey
    Les can't afford the luxury tax
     
  15. engr chris

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    Maybe we can get this from Luther every once in a while:

    Head had a career night, scoring 30 in a loss to the Golden State Warriors. Head was 10-13 from the floor, 7-9 from the 3-point line, and 3-3 from the free throw line.
     
  16. zack15432

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    you try and get Sean Williams fomr the Nets. Or you package him with somone else and try and get Pachulia from the Hawks

    Williams is 6'10'' C
    5.6 PPG
    4.4 RPG
    $1,416,600

    Head is 6'3'' SG
    7.6 PPG
    1.9 APG
    $1,122,000
     
  17. jingle77

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    Mike Miller?
     
  18. Jeff Who

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    I hate Luther, I used to like him but you know, after his 2 playoffs performances in a row I'm tired. Maybe this guy can shoot but that is the only thing he can.

    Right now he won't even find his space in the rotation I belive. We've got Barry, Shane, Brooks. So we can leave him here unless we find a good trade, maybe for a backup pg.
     
  19. meh

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    I think Head's biggest value with the Rockets is our lack of backcourt depth. Despite his playoff choke jobs, he's still a good 3 point shooter to spread the floor.

    But I'd love it if we trade head for an old, crappy traditional PG to come in and be serviceable should Alston or Brooks have problems.
     
  20. Albert Einstain

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    i don't think their gms will accept the trade for the no-head head unless they are absolutely idiots.
     

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