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Who wants to eat carcinogens? You do!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Mar 20, 2015.

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  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Something to pay attention to if you eat corn and soybean that are GMO.

    If you do...you may be in for a surprise. Oh, there's nothing wrong with them being GMO...inherently. It's more of why they are GMO - that is to make them resistant to the most commonly used herbicides in the world. A herbicide that contains an ingredient that the WHO just labeled a likely carcinogen.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...dup-probable-carcinogen-report-says/25115481/


    80% of the foods use this herbicide so in all probability most of us are consuming this chemical Glyphosate which is a probable carcinogen. So the question is - do you want to eat GMO corn and soybean, knowing that doing so means you are also eating this herbicide that is a likely carcinogen? Maybe labeling things GMO isn't such a bad idea after all....
     
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  2. Mr. Clutch

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    Are you an anti-vaxer too?

    Please show me a serious study showing how much herbicide is in our food, both GMO and non.
     
  3. Cohete Rojo

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    Let me guess: Koch brothers.
     
  4. Space Ghost

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    This is where you lose all credibility. Are you implying only the "right wing" eats GMO's?

    Why does everything need to be polarized into left or right?
     
  5. KingCheetah

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    that is to make them resistant to the most commonly used pesticide in the world

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    So the question is - do you want to eat GMO corn and soybean, knowing that doing so means you are also eating this herbicide that is a likely carcinogen?
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    Huh?
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate

    You don't use glyphosate on organic or non-GMO foods, it would kill the food. It's only used in tandem, the modification is to make the food resistant to glyphosate (herbicide).
     
  7. RedRedemption

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    I'm too lazy to do the research on GMOs.
    So yeah, if it kills me, it kills me. :p
     
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    You gotta die of something.
     
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    Not really so sure about your "facts". I've taken part in an unofficial blind taste study (conducted by my buddy Richie) in which we ate non labeled GMO and organic foods (non GMO). I confidently preferred the taste of GMO vegetables on a five to one margin. The only one I preferred the organic was in tomato, but I don't like tomatoes anyways.
     
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    I guess it means resistant to being harmed by that pesticide, so therefore it can be used in large quantities on the plant to deter insects.
     
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    I thought it was when he used the words "pesticide" and "herbicide" interchangeably.

    It's a very valid topic though, but I'm not sure who exactly thought that ingesting Roundup was healthy to begin with.
     
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    Have you read your own link? Its used even for non-gmo crops, but has to be applied differently.

    You can buy this stuff at Wal Mart.
     
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    They have to make sure the residue levels are below certain point
     
  14. rocketsjudoka

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    This is something worth further study but not to the point of getting alarmed about. We consume carcinogens all the time. If you like a nice charred steak you are already consuming carcinogens that occur when meat is exposed to high heat. The key like most things is to balance out your diet so that you are consuming a diversity of foods.
     
  15. ThatBoyNick

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    Which is why it's so important we try to eliminate as many sources of carcinogens as possible. I'll never understand why people would willing choose harm for their bodies over health. Flavor, price, ignorance, carelessness, i'm sure theirs a list of reasons, but none of them make it acceptable for us to willing poison our bodies.

    1 in 2 men, and 1 in 3 women, will develop cancer. It's not casual, it's a big problem with astonishingly simple fixes. Eat healthy, sleep well, exercise regularly - these are anti-carcinogenic. Then, eliminate as many sources of carcinogens as possible (make sure your air, food and water are clean from harmful chemicals). I know it's really inconvenient in today's society to live a healthy lifestyle to most, but it's still so essential for a long healthy and happy life.
     
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    I'll believe it when I see it posted by someone selling an MLM on Facebook.
     
  17. RedRedemption

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    Cancer is also hereditary. Avoiding every single disease and defect that could kill you is like winning the lottery. I do understand trying to be healthy, but sacrificing happiness and money to live 2-3 years longer just isn't worth it for most people. Not to mention health has nothing to do with freak events that could kill you physical health be damned.
     
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    Only 5 to 10% of cancer is hereditary. Which means 95 to 90% is due to health choices. About 8-10 million people die of cancer every year world wide, can you image cutting that down to 1 million. And to say people are only loosing 2-3 years from cancer and various other diseases (heart disease mainly) which could be prevented by a healthy life style, is ridiculous. I can't find any scientific data research on how many years people are loosing from cancer, but I think we can agree it's likely decades, not 2 or 3 years.

    You say we'd be sacrificing money, but where spending a beyond ridiculous amount on health in the USA already. You say we'd be sacrificing happiness, I couldn't disagree with you more, tell me if you'v ever met a more miserable person then a 40-60 year old dying from cancer in front of his or her family. Or a teenager loosing his parent, or a wife loosing her husband, a brother loosing his sister, or a parent loosing their own child.

    Not only will the disease lead to a miserable death, and would the person be loosing very valuable years of their life, but their life prior to the disease would have been negatively affected by the unhealthy choices anyway. It's proven, eating healthy makes you happier, exercise makes you happier and sleep makes you happier, all improve your hormones and your quality of life. Yes freak deaths are uncontrollable, but lets focus on what we can control, and that's our own health.
     
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    Probably not something to be alarmed about, but something to definitely be conscious of.

    The point is that many of the chemicals we use or put in our bodies haven't been tested. Things like Coal Tar which many people use is considered a carcinogen. No one knows at what rates these things are causing diseases or what concentration is necessary to increase risks in many cases until after enough people get sick and they are able to find the common source.

    Also keep in mind in adults cancers are not triggers by exposure to one molecule that causes one mutation. Usually cancer comes from several mutations over time which is why cancer is concentrated in the elderly. So will once carcinogen cause you cancer? Probably not.

    But the accumulation of carcinogens and mutations over 50-60 years can have that effect. Taking multiple carcinogens from multiple sources over time has an effect.

    The point here is that people think there are no risks with GMO as foods. But while the food itself may be safe, how that food is processed and grown might be different and these are things people need to be aware off.
     
  20. RedRedemption

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    I don't see what's wrong with people making their own choices and facing the consequences of those choices. You can't force people to live a healthy lifestyle. And with the amount of money pumped into advertising and lobbying by fast food, snack, and soda companies; the landscape isn't going to change through public awareness either.
    I'm talking about personal finance, lol. Organics are more expensive, healthy options are more expensive. Yeah sure, Mr. Middle Class can afford healthier choices but what about those on SNAP and food stamps?
    Can't disagree with you here, dying early sucks, but let's be real the vegan and alcohol/drug free lifestyle is not a sustainable lifestyle for 80% of the people on the planet. That's the happiness I'm talking about sacrificing.
    If it was as simple as flipping a switch, then we wouldn't have the obesity epidemic we have today. Unhealthy foods/fast foods are addictive.
    Tackling the exercise portion is probably the easiest part about a nationwide health change, exercise/sports is fun. Its way harder to target people's diets.
     

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