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Who Is the Greatest Historical Figure of the Arts?

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Who Is the Greatest Historical Figure of the Arts?

  1. Leonardo da Vinci

    8 vote(s)
    32.0%

  2. Michelangelo

    4 vote(s)
    16.0%

  3. William Shakespeare

    9 vote(s)
    36.0%

  4. Johann Sebastian Bach

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  5. Ludwig van Beethoven

    3 vote(s)
    12.0%

  6. Other (Specify)

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  1. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    The top 5 choices that I could think of were:

    Michelangelo (sculpture, painting)
    Leonardo da Vinci (mainly painting)
    Shakespeare (literature)
    Bach (music)
    Beethoven (music)

    I know that there are others, so that is why there is the other option, but these are the ones that immediately come to mind.

    It was hard to vote against Johann Sebastian Bach (especially after listening to parts of his "Mass in B Minor" last night!), but I have got to go with Michelangelo.

    It is incredible to look at the things this man did:

    1) Created argubably the most famous statue of all time in David
    2) Did the famous Pieta (the Virgin Mary holding the dead Christ in her lap) when he was only like 23 that now resides in the Vatican (and has for over 500 years)
    3) Painted the Sistine Chapel (which in itself is a monumental achievement)
    4) Was also an architecht
    5) AND wrote poetry including some very religious ones near the end of his life.

    That is my case for voting Michelangelo, numero uno, as the greatest historical figure for the Arts.
     
    #1 Manny Ramirez, Nov 26, 2002
  2. Refman

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    I have to go with Shakespeare. His works are quoted in common parlance even today.
    "A pound of flesh" - The Merchant of Venice.
    "Something is rotten.." - Hamlet
    "a rose by any other name" - Romeo & Juliet

    His works still hold great relevance and have touched our pop culture in a meaningful way.
     
    #2 Refman, Nov 26, 2002
  3. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    I voted for Beethoven because he composed wonderful music, while he was deaf! I considered Mike for all the reasons you listed Manny, as well as Leo, but mostly for his scientific genious as opposed to anything art related.
     
    #3 StupidMoniker, Nov 26, 2002
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    Aristotle.

    He formulated our conceptions of art and beauty. His ideas still are extremely influential in dramatic criticism, theories of tragedy, and beauty itself. The entire Western understanding of Art is based on his work.

    If you've taken many critical courses in the humanities... it's amazing how much Aristotle you end up reading.

    If you'd said most infuential artist, I would have said Sophocles or Shakespeare.
     
    #4 haven, Nov 26, 2002
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    John Lennon
     
    #5 RocketMan Tex, Nov 26, 2002
  6. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    haven,

    Interesting that you mentioned Aristotle. But he makes a lot of sense.

    However, he did have some erroneous thoughts regarding science like mistakenly thinking that the heavier an object is, the faster it falls as well as that the atmosphere helps a bird fly through the air, and the worst one of all, that maggots were spontaneously created from mud! Ugh!

    But this is for arts and not science, so I digress.:)
     
    #6 Manny Ramirez, Nov 26, 2002
  7. MadMax

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    Milli Vanilli
     
    #7 MadMax, Nov 26, 2002
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    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    What about Donatello and Raphael? Raphael kicked ass with those sai...
     
    #9 A-Train, Nov 26, 2002
  10. Another Brother

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    Ludwig Van Beethoven

    Black and couldn't hear...

    The original Def Jam
     
    #10 Another Brother, Nov 26, 2002
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    Manny,

    Are you in here trying to broaden your horizons and use it to win over that two timing woman???? j/k;)
     
    #11 TheHorns, Nov 26, 2002
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    uh... Mozart?
     
    #12 111chase111, Nov 26, 2002
  13. PhiSlammaJamma

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    There are three things I consider most important:

    1) You open the door to creativity.

    I know one thing all artists crave is the freedom to express themselves. That is why I think Cezanne was the greatest artist. He opened the door to creativity by simply being different. I don't know who did that musically or in literature. But the guys on the list were pretty good.

    2) You inspire people emotionally throughout the ages.

    Shakespeare's themes will last forever. His work is timeless from an emotional viewpoint.

    3) You inspire people creativily throughout the ages. Shakespeare hasn't really inspired me. So he fails me in this regard, but someone like beethoven has inspired people to write books, movies, and music for quite some time. His work seems to give people rudders.



    That being said. I just don't know.
     
    #13 PhiSlammaJamma, Nov 26, 2002
  14. Pole

    Pole Houston Rockets--Tilman Fertitta's latest mess.

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    God.



    To quote Don Henley:

    "Don't you know that women are the only works of art."
     
    #14 Pole, Nov 26, 2002
  15. DAROckets

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    I guess that would be funny if he was black :confused:


    My favorite is da Vinci.The Mona Lisa and the Last Supper are two of the most recognizable paintings ever created and his ideas in science were hundreds of years ahead of their time.
     
    #15 DAROckets, Nov 26, 2002
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    #16 Another Brother, Nov 26, 2002
  17. Pole

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    #17 Pole, Nov 26, 2002
  18. Another Brother

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    I think back then they fell a few megapixels short. "Less like a Moor" may have been his quote.
     
    #18 Another Brother, Nov 26, 2002
  19. Pole

    Pole Houston Rockets--Tilman Fertitta's latest mess.

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    ...could be...

    your article described him as an "ugly man," and those portraits aren't too bad.

    I think he looks kinda cool....in an old rock star kinda way.
     
    #19 Pole, Nov 26, 2002
  20. Another Brother

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    LOL! I'll stop here before this banter gets misconstrued... Thanks for the pics.
     
    #20 Another Brother, Nov 26, 2002
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