Dirk's numbers really aren't that impressive. He's in the mix because of Dallas's record. I still think it should come down to Kobe or Nash. Nash just because the guys has so much impact and changes the game - remarkable. But Kobe because he doesn't have the supporting cast the other guys do, and he's still the best offensive player in the league - and not too shabby on D. I think Kobe gets the nod this year. He won't win, it will probably be Dirk, but I think it's Kobe, Nash, and Dirk if you truly want to say who is the "most valuable player". I mean, who would not trade for Kobe? And who would the Lakers trade Kobe for? There only one name I can think of - and that's Lebron James.
Dude, make up your mind. It's Dirk all the way. Numbers "not really impressive"? Well, no player since Bird in 87/88 has had .500/.900 and 25 pts per game (not to mention almost 10 rebs).
i dont think a team with under 50 wins has ever had an mvp, so kobe is out. my guess is dirk. although if the rockets finish strong and get hc, i think tmac has to be in consideration.
Not true Moses won it with a rockets team that was 46-36 and I believe he won it another time here when we had less wins than that.
Kobe doesn't deserve it. his team is not an elite team. IMHO it is either Nash or Dirk, i think Dirk should win it.
It is most valuable player, not best player on best team. Kobe is ahead of Nash imo, because look at Nash's team. he's got 2 studs in Amare and Matrix. And dont tell me those guys are only good because of nash because they are not. Plus they got barbosa. Who does kobe have around him? Put nash on the Lakers instead of Kobe, they wont even make the playoffs. Its the league's most valuable player, not the most valuable player to his individual team
...see: record when nash does not play. Plus MVP actualy IS player most valuable to a team. Since when does one player play for more than one team at the same time. Because a player is the most valuable to his team, and he proves that the team is much better WITH him, that makes him the most valuable player!
It'll probably be Dirk this year. He is the lynch-pin on the team with the best record in the league. As for the Kobe argument it depends on what the criteria is. Just asking "But who would NOT trade for Kobe?" isn't quite it. If that were the case Jordan would have won it nine or ten times -- and I think most people would agree that you don't want to award it based solely on personal statistics, otherwise you run the risk of getting into a murky area where a superstar is putting up gaudy personal numbers on a team that sucks simply to get the accolades. It seems, rather, the personal stats should be weighed with the team's success. Kobe may very well be the best player in the league. The MVP seems to reward one player who, over one season, has led that group of guys to a great regular season. And that typically will be off a team with one of the best records in the league as long as there is someone on that team whose personal stats support it -- and 25ppg, 9rbs, while shooting 50% from the field, 42% from beyond the arc, and 90% from the free throw line sure seems to support the argument for awarding it to Nowitzki.
the sun went 0-3 without nash vs. easten scrub & 1 win by luck in OT vs. another scrub. laker without kobe won't make as much of a differ compare to Sun without nash. kobe is simply a scoring machine, but nash can score & make play. It will come down to Dirk or Nash without a doubt (I woulda said dirk, but the last time they meet, it was nash that force OT with a 3 & the Sun win in 2 nd OT). It might come down to today's game, the Sun vs. Mavs. If sun win again, I say Nash should get it & vice versa for dirk.
Well it's kinda chicken or egg isn't it. I guess the only way we'll know definitively is if Nash is out an entire season and we see how well Amare and the Matrix do. No doubt they're great players, but I think most player personnel people and coaches would also attest that Nash is a main reason these guys have lanes to fill or get easy backdoor buckets or get open looks from the elbow -- not the other way around.
0-3 vs. eastern scrub & a lucky win vs. another scrub in OT right after nash went out, I don't think those 2 guy are the same without nash. (Is kinda like chuck looking like a great player with T-mac/Yao on the court, but without them, hes another scrub)
I absolutely agree with you. Of course we're not comparing Chuck Hayes to Amare or Marion, but there's little doubt that Steve Nash significantly enhances their games -- whether it's by making the right pass at the right time or simply by spacing the floor. Oh yeah, the guy also scores almost 19 points per game as well.
see Lakers record without Kobe...they wont win 24 games in a whole season. Take out Nash and the Suns will finish 8 9 10 in the west.
Kobe's 40 ppg March was impressive. He is the most talented offensive player in the NBA. But March didn't change anything in the MVP race, unless you consider Dirk increasing his lead over Nash a change. The Mavs are playing so consistent it's easy to take Dirk for granted while Kobe goes center stage with a ridiculous string of games trying to keep the Lakers ahead of the Nuggets at #6. With 10 games to go, the MVP belongs to Dirk unless something fluky happens that would give the nod to Nash.
whats the record without kobe? vs. what team? anyway the laker is only a decent team (but with lots of potential) with kobe. With 38-34 as a team record there no way anyone would consider him as a MVP. The last 4 winning streak with 50+ point from kobe came from team that is below 500 and his team BARELY won. (I mean, if T-Mac or Yao have 50 point, its gonna be a blowout win) Kobe was great and made lots of clutch shot during those 50+ point game, but his team need to win a lot more game (especailly vs. team that are above 500) to be consider MVP.
