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Who does JVG the TNT Broadcaster drool over?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by giddyup, Jun 22, 2003.

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  1. giddyup

    giddyup Member

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    I don't watch much NBA basketball until the playoffs.

    Some of you who do may be able to answer this question and provide some insight as to which FAs the Rocket brass might pursue.

    Which available NBA players does JVG really, really like-- as evidenced by his TV commentary?

    No one talks about Andre Miller to the Rockets anymore? Is JVG not a Miller fan?
     
  2. xiki

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    He was diplomatic to the point of borrrrring when he spoke of players, coaches, refs in his commentaries.

    Dre to Rox? Sounds good (Cat should be able to land him so Odom is happy in LAC gear). However, when Dre was drafted JVG nixed a Knick trade which would have landed him in NY. But, that was long ago and Miller has shown game.
     
  3. peleincubus

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    You really think Mobley himself could get Miller?
     
  4. mfclark

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    Miller's a restricted free agent, and the Clippers have historically shown a willingness to let players walk than complete sign and trade deals.

    In this case, Utah has the money to offer him in a deal that the Clippers might not match. The midcap isn't going to get it done for anyone, as the Clippers would likely match it.

    So, in essence, no, Mobley would not get Miller if he were on another team due to positional differences & talent - and especially not the Clippers due to their team mindset.
     
  5. Dr of Dunk

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    One thing about coaches looking for jobs - generally speaking, they're not going to talk badly about too many players. Now Bill Walton, on the other hand...
     
  6. xiki

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    Yes. That is based on the (reasonable?) assumption that Mobley's trade would lock up Odom 9the alleged Sterling favorite).

    Cat's salary fpr next year + 15% with raises of 12% for the six years would make Rox players in Dre. So, yes, Cat alone could do it.
     
  7. ILuvEddie33

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    Why do so many people want Miller first he had a HORRIBLE year wit the clips and I dunno I just don“t see him Rockin the ROX. I dunno theres just something that wont seem right.:confused:<Me
     
  8. mfclark

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    And the Clippers would want Mobley's salary why...? They won't even keep their own free agents, yet alone sign anyone. So why would they take him back in a deal? They already have Richardson, and it'd likely cost less money to keep Maggette (if they so chose) than to take back Mobley in a sign and trade.

    And that's the point: the Clippers just don't do sign and trade deals.
     
  9. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Mobley's got a great contract, though. They may be willing to take on a couple of players with good or expiring contracts.
     
  10. mfclark

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    They just never have in the past. They've been offered good contracts in deals for Mo Taylor, Derek Anderson, and others, but never taken them.

    Mobley still has a few years left on his deal, all over over $5m per season (and escalating). I just don't think the Clippers would take it on and would prefer more rookies and undrafted free agents. At least that's what history has shown.
     
  11. Rocketman95

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    Yeah, good point. You're most likely right.
     
  12. xiki

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    The operative point here is that they would have to want Mobley as a way to retain Odom long term.

    They will have to have a dozen guys, after all.

    BTW - Denver is liable to offer Maggete Arenas type money.
     
  13. mfclark

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    Mobley may be something to keep Odom long-term, though does that change the Clippers' losing attitude? No. Does it change the fact Clippers management, on a whole, is inept? No. Does it change the fact that Sterling isn't likely to spend big bucks? No.

    They have to have 8 players, at the very least. That's where they get players like Tremaine Fowlkes this year - undrafted free agents.

    It's an idea, sure, but I really don't see it as feasible. It would go against everything the Clippers have done in the past, and I just can't see everything changing all of a sudden, especially for something that may or may not work (in pairing Mobley with Odom) in keeping Odom, whether or not he is STerling's favorite.
     
  14. xiki

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    Who knows what will play out. I assume they will have a coach in place by opening of camp in the Fall.
     
  15. SLA

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    lol...

    Well I know Jeff Van Gundy ADORES Yao Ming. He praised and worshipped him.

    And I know JVG doesn't like many of the referees...

    But he doesn't criticize anyone really.
     
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    I have wondered the same thang about trading Mobley to the Clips. That might be inducement to keep Odom, his bud (I better not use the word "bud" to refer to Odom; the young man might suffer a relapse)....but the Clips might still try to low-ball Odom.

    Oeilpere or Doc Rocket posted at the trade deadline that we wouldn't trade with teams in our own conference. Wonder if it still holds true, even in 3-way trades?

    If we could trade to a team with a high draft pick, and exchange that for signed-and-traded Miller; but Dre might have his sights set on the $$$ in Utah. The Jazz will have the cap space and, being in Utah, will have to overpay to get players.

    And yet, does Dre really want to be in Utah, or would he prefer the Houston concrete and steel environs like that of his hometown L.A.?

    All of this is probably academic anyway. Seems like we're aiming to upgrade the "4" spot in particular.
     
  17. SLA

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    I'm sure that Mobley would be enough for Andre Miller. We could even add Moochie and they could give us Wang Zhi Zhi or something.

    But I wouldn't trade Mobley for Andre Miller! He is a true point guard...but he isn't that great of a shooter! He is a fantastic passer...but it's useless when nobody on our team can shoot!! And I don't think he's that great of a defender. And what about on defense? Andre Miller and Steve Francis can't guard people 1on1. Maybe zone defense all day.

    Keep Mobley!
     
  18. slinslin

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    He is drooling about Amare Stoudemire, Stephon Marbury, Shawn Marion and what a great nucleus that is to contend every single season in the west.
     

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