Which of these players will never make play at All Star Level again

to me its David Lee easily

Lee played in "uptempo" systems that made it easy to get stats based on the sheer number of possesions in the game (that by no means is to say he isnt a good player) but now with Mark Jackson as the coach and bringing in Bogut the opportunities Lee will see will go down and the team will focus more on being somewhat of a half court team.

The others still will can play at an all-star level and IMO were all more talented than Lee to begin with.

 

David Lee, although I think he's better than Boozer.

 

1. Amar'e
1. Loozer
3. Lee
4. Gasol

 

In this order:

1. Boozer (a swing and a miss by the Bulls who were desperate at the time)

2. Lee (hard to believe he was ever an All-Star)

3. Amare (he's lost so much explosion it's sad)

4. Gasol (on his new team next season without Kobe and Bynum in the way, Pau will step his game up)

 

Sounds about right.

 

Pau's productivity suffered when Bynum became the focus and he (Pau) was forced to play out of position in the high-post. When he resumes his career as the #1 low-post option for another team, his points and rebounds will go up.

Pau never was good enough to be the #1 option on a contender. But with Kobe as #1, plus Odom and other parts in place, he was a 19/10 guy on two championship teams.

He is still a very good player and a superb #2 option to a great perimeter player. I've said about a dozen times the current Lakers team is stale bread. Whichever of Pau or Bynum is traded will have a breakout season and be glad they left LA. Unless they work some miracles in trades, Lakers will continue declining.

 

Pau's rebounding numbers were good this year and above his career average. Also, I'm not so sure about Bynum being the cause of Pau's regression. Pau's fg% has dropped in each of the last three years and his fg% has been higher with Bynum on the court over the last two years.

 

All true, but there were too many times this year where Pau didn't seem to know what he was supposed to do. Mike Brown was part of the problem. But Pau made the best of it. If he's returned to a situation where his role as the #1 post option is clear and the coach has a clue about offense, I think he will be more assertive and be closer to the Pau of their championship seasons.

It's just my opinion. For all we know, Pau could experience a serious decline next year. I doubt it. I think he loves LA but is sick of Kobe, sick of Mike Brown and probably sick of Bynum too.

 

I agree. His time in LA definitely needs to end.

 

1. Carlos Boozer: He's in steady decline from his Jazz days. I think Deron Williams was the best thing that happened to him.

2. David Lee: I feel he's a wildcard, but in the West it might tough for him to get a nod over Kevin Love, LaMarcus Aldridge, and Blake Griffin. You've got Zach Randolph and possibly Anthony Davis (and other upcomers). I'll throw in Gasol as well.

3A. Amare Stoudemire: This season was not the best measurement for him. He had injuries and played in chaotic offense and team management situation, all in a shortened season. He's not quite in complete decline, yet.

3B. Pau Gasol - will easily make it as a center, sort of like Tim Duncan. Though, he could get in on an odd year at power forward, especially if he ends up in the East. Even on a worst team, he's not going to average what he did in Memphis as far scoring, because if he's a primary scorer then teams will be able to key in on him more often than with the Lakers.

 

That's good assessment. Pau has average midrange jumpers. With Bynum that's the best shots he can get and he's not going to use his strength.

 

If Pau gets traded to the Eastern Conference, he'll easily be an all-star

 

Ideally, you have to put Gasol, next to defensive oriented big man or another guy who can man the paint. Which is why he'd be good fit next to a center like Noah, Chandler, Bizarro Gasol, Howard, Camby, or Perkins.

Compliment him very much on defense and gives a little more flexibility on offense.

 

I was torn between Boozer and Lee, but since David Lee is younger, I'd be less surprised if he was traded to somewhere like Washington and managed to return to all-star level for a short time.

 

Am I missing something? Just double checked on nba.com and Lee averaged 20/10/3 this season, almost on par with his All Star season with the Knicks. I certainly wouldn't compare those numbers to the seasons that Boozer, Gasol and Amare have just had.

 

Why am I only allowed to vote for one!?!?

 

David Lee has lesser talent, market and reputation than the other guys. Not good recipe for All Star consideration. BUT he's the kind of player on a good team that can get credit. And he's got a couple years younger age than the other guys.

In order
- Boozer. Getting in "Elton Brand" type stage in his career.
- Lee. For reasons mentioned
- Tie: Gasol/Amare. Amare still has big name rep. If his team does well and he comes back healthier, or if another PF slips in the East he can go in by default. Gasol, he just had one All-Star year outside of LA so he wasnt an automatic. If he joins a team like the Rockets that'd make him the #1 option, he's earned enough rep where if he puts up nice numbers he'll get in. I think his numbers this year are about what he'll do as a #1 option on another team though.