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Which of the following statements is prejudice?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Oct 26, 2014.

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Which of the following statements reflects prejudice?

  1. Judaism makes you more likely to cheat people out of money

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  2. Islam makes you more likely to rape and murder

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  3. Both reflect prejudice

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  4. neither does, it is only criticism.

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  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

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    curious to see how people answer...
     
  2. Space Ghost

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    I never understood the stereotype of Jews being stingy, greedy and cheap. It sounds like Hitler propaganda. And I thought it was tied more towards their ethnicity, not so much their religion.
     
  3. Buck Turgidson

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    It only dates back in Europe for around a thousand years.
     
  4. yo

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    Let me guess, OP thinks statements are "only criticism".
     
  5. AroundTheWorld

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    Both reflect prejudice, as they insinuate that just being a member of a religious group makes a person more likely to commit crimes, and thereby unfairly put members of a group under suspicion of certain crimes when they have not even done anything.

    That said, pointing out commands in religious texts which are taken literally by members of the religion/ideology and translated into action ("kill all unbelievers" which e.g. ISIS does) is not prejudice, it's pointing out facts.

    I am not aware of any command in Jewish religious texts to "cheat people out of money", and I am not aware of a higher fraud crime rate among Jews than among members of other religions. However, it seems that you are trying to insinuate that this is the case, which is shameful.
     
  6. justtxyank

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    It comes from centuries ago. The Catholic Church and the Muslim governments didn't allow their religious followers to charge interest so Jews dominated the money lending. Throughout antiquity, money lenders were seen in incredibly negative connotation because of the interest they charged.
     
  7. pippendagimp

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    ya it's pretty ridiculous to paint larry ellison, mark cuban, or steve ballmer of being stingy or cheap. athough donald sterling and les alexander might be a different story :grin:
     
  8. AroundTheWorld

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    I had no idea Mark Cuban and Steve Ballmer are Jewish.
     
  9. pippendagimp

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    what about the father of the nba, maurice podoloff? he's the reason we're all here on clutchfans to begin with :grin:
     
  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

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    Yet you have said Islam Is inherently violent...seems you are now backing off of that?
     
  11. AroundTheWorld

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    Please find that verbatim quote.
     
  12. robbie380

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    i guess exiled voted for option 1
     
  13. DFWRocket

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    I remember the first time I had heard the phrase "Jew you down" in the early 90's...all I could think was How is that NOT offensive? I think the stereotype comes from the fact that many in the Jewish culture are very good/smart with money. I knew one Jewish girl in college that worked 3 jobs while going to school full time. I also knew a Jewish guy that made pretty good money, had no kids, and drove a very very cheap small car, I'm talking about one of those that costs like 5-7K new.

    They don't spend frivolously, place a very high emphasis on education. But its culture-driven, not religion or ethnicity.
     
  14. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Dude you have said this all over the place. I don't have time right now to go through all your stuff but I am sure someone will.
     
  15. Nook

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    "Homosexuality is a decision, it's not a race," White said. "People from all different ethnic backgrounds live in this lifestyle. But people from all different ethnic backgrounds also are liars and cheaters and malicious and back-stabbing."

    Thank you Minister Reggie White

    "Each race has certain gifts,

    Blacks are gifted at worship and celebration,

    If you go to a black church, you see people jumping up and down because they really get into it,

    Whites are good at organization, you guys do a good job of building businesses and things of that nature, and you know how to tap into money.

    Hispanics were gifted in family structure, and you can see a Hispanic person, and they can put 20, 30 people in one home.

    The Japanese and other Asians are inventive, and "can turn a television into a watch.

    Indians are gifted in spirituality."
     
  16. Nook

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    Ask NewYorker, I am sure he has time to look it up.
     
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  17. AroundTheWorld

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    I just had an ad telling me to convert to Islam NOW - who funds these targeted ads? lol
     
  18. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I am saying you claim that Islam is inherently violent based on the following quotes I went through in the other thread.

    I mean, what do others think? It sure sounds like to me you are saying the problem is inherently with Islam the religion, that it is inherently something that leads to violence.
     
  19. TheresTheDagger

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    None of the above.
     
  20. AroundTheWorld

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    Thank you for finding some quotes of mine you should read and learn from.

    From Wikipedia: Prejudice is prejudgment, or forming an opinion before becoming aware of the relevant facts of a case.

    My statements are based on facts and evidence.

    Thus, they are not prejudice.

    What you need to understand is that 1) you are just on this fake "mission" to be the white knight of Islam because you really want some attention, not because you have any actual convictions - we all know this, since you argued completely different positions for years, 2) it would be wrong to make blanket assumptions about individual people and therefore treat them in a worse manner, even if the facts statistically indicate that being followers of a certain ideology makes it likelier that they have certain intolerant beliefs, but that 3) as more and more facts and evidence come to light, it can no longer be called prejudice.
     

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