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Which 3 would you keep?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Believe It!, Sep 22, 2022.

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Which 3 would you keep if you had to choose due to the salary cap and the # of max contracts?

This poll will close on Sep 22, 2023 at 3:07 PM.
  1. Jalen Green

  2. Kevin Porter Jr.

  3. Alperen Sengun

  4. Jabari Smith

  5. Tari Eason

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  1. Believe It!

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    In no way should JC ever run the point. Would take TyTy over him every time. No doubt.
     
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  2. clos4life

    clos4life Contributing Member

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    I understand your points and you might even be right. I just happen to disagree and will be happy to be wrong if it ends up that way.
     
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  3. Salvy

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    Jalen Green, Christian Wood and James Harden......
     
  4. ApacheWarrior

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    Mostly just trolling those who say rooks will improve but KPj just learning
    PG won't. Just an illogical way of thinking by basketball dummies.

    Here is a video by Chop Shop ripping Wood for lack of screening.
    Spot on. They get it. Silas offense is predicated on screens and
    Wood with his lazy behind taking up 30 minutes a game screwed
    up many a thing.


    Chop watched Wood almost every play on film.

    But I don't pay bigs that screen, rebound, protect the rim and lack 3-pt range
    Max money. They get Tari $18M money. And if I have Jabari and Wembanyama....
    Sengun is coming off my bench because the others bring defense. I don't care
    for Sengun defense.

    Bench players don't get Max money......I hated E Gordon and Ryan Anderson
    getting max money more or less coming off the bench.....i won't want
    Sengun getting max money. I don't care if he pulls a fancy pass out of his
    britches a time or two. Better shoot me some threes "Always" to get Max
    money and supply some spacing for my facilitators. That's more important.

    If my facilitators of Green/Porter/JC each get 15 drives per game
    that's 45 drives in about a games total of 90 possessions.

    To Sengun 6 to 8 post ups? WTF.....a few drives from the FT line.

    No contest who I'm backing.....the 3 facilitators needing spacing
    in the paint.
     
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  5. Jontro

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    everyone is fair game if we’re getting handsome zion
     
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  6. clos4life

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    I still think Sengun can develop a 3 as he is barely 20 years old. As a matter of fact, I think he is about to unveil a mid-range game along with his post game. I'll take Sengun's potential along with Green/Smith than rolling with KPJ/Green/Smith but that's just because I think KPJ is more likely to be a player that flashes and teases potential rather than fulfilling it. Of course, I could be wrong and a full potential KPJ would be amazing (50 point game being a great example) but I just don't think he will get there. Once again, if I'm wrong I'll be more than happy to be wrong, but Sengun seems like a more sure bet for the Rockets playing winning bball in the future.
     
  7. ApacheWarrior

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    Why? What has TyTy done?

    Played SG next to a real PG in Wheeler who got over 6.9 assists per game
    (7.4 the previous yr) to TyTy's 3.9 assists.
    [ In one game got 17 assists which brought up his average ]

    TyTy is slow, can't penetrate vs NBA competition on his own,
    not a good shooter, not a good floor general, takes ill-advised
    18 footers to 19 foot pull ups, and poor defensively.

    The only thing TyTy is good at is floaters in the lane. From what I hear,
    TyTy is practicing floaters while others in shoot-around are practicing
    shooting a variety of shots. The floaters may be good for PnR.....
    but are we going to PnR all TyTy possessions? All I need is
    one NBA defender guarding against the TyTy floater....not two.
    Defeats the purpose of my facilitators. They need to draw the
    gravity of the defense. KPj does that as he attracts at least the
    best wing defenders of the opposition more than anyone not named
    Beal, Morant, Dame, and Doncic.
     
  8. ApacheWarrior

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    And that is why the post up is the most inefficient shot in basketball......because studies
    show they most often end up as a mid range shot. Him shooting more of them doesn't
    make me want to give him Max money.

    But you do you and I'll do the smart thing. Haha
     
  9. clos4life

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    And I'll take the likelihood of Sengun being able to play the post, hit the middey, AND develop a 3 while throwing dimes all over the court with Green/Smith than KPJ ever hitting his full potential. Even better if both hit their full potential and we retain them, but if having to choose one over the other I'll take Sengun. And yes, I said retain them both, because unless KPJ can demonstrate he deserves the max this year, I don't think the Rockets have to worry as they can retain both because KPJ hasn't yet demonstrated he has what it takes to get the max.
     
  10. ApacheWarrior

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    We shall see. Like most in today's NBA.....spacing in the paint determines a lot
    of teams efficiency or lack there of. This is why the key word in today's NBA is
    SPACING!!

    This is where people always tell me: if we put enough good players
    around Sengun (Embiid/Jokic) they could win a championship.

    My answer is always: yeah and if you put enough good players around
    Dwight Howard as well. Give Porter and JC enough space in the paint
    with Green, EG, Tari, Jabari.....and watch them shine!!

    Oh Heavens No!!!!!! They can't succeed without our hero Sengun!!!!!
    How dare me!!!!!! No player is irreplaceable.

    I had Sengun comp as Pau Gasol.....more mid range shots secures that comp
    Gasol could also shoot a 3 here and there. Fancy passer as well. Not worth
    Max money imo.
     
  11. clos4life

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    Time will tell. As I said, I'll be happy if both develop and we can retain them. Only time will tell if one is superior to the other or both end up having about the same impact on teams. You do still need 5 players and as long as they are both Rockets I'll cheer for them.
     
  12. ApacheWarrior

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    To that I can agree on.

    I do see ways Sengun can contribute and help Green, KPj, JC.

    But Green, KPj, JC had a packed paint last year and it's amazing
    how good their numbers were despite the packed paint.

    Mid year Green and KPj were hitting their 3's which allowed Sengun to
    operate in the post and from the FT line distance as teams had to respect
    the shooting of Green, KPj (and Tate 38% after ASB).

    But take away Wood.....and then KPj (CnS 3's).....replace him with a poor
    shooting JC or TyTy or Scoot Henderson......guess what happens?
    Paint could close up for Sengun.....and bye-bye decent stats as Sengun
    is relegated to being mostly a jump shooter as Green, KPj and JC were
    last season. Welcome to the club. Better hope Tari and Jabari can get
    it done the whole season from 3.
     
  13. King1

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    Nobody wants KPJ lol. I don't know why his fans invest so much time in trying to prove he's at best Jamal Crawford or JR Smith
     
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    Yikes, this is much tougher than I thought it would be.
     
  15. Easy

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    So far;, 114 people voted.

    Jalen: 111 votes
    Jabari: 109 votes
    Alpi + Tari: 109 votes
    KPJ: 10 votes
     
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    Spacing just moved away from that statement.
     
  18. fattz

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    Spacing can happen in other-ways than just positioning, when we run sets with real picks & screens (Sengun, Smith, Eason, Garuba) the spacing will appear. We will be in the half court more because everyone will playing defense on the other. Choice is a quick translation or hold to set up the offense. Even playing out of the high post the pace will slow down a bit because we have to transfer back from playing defense. They are so young, I foresee a physical brand of basketball in our future with a larger rotation (fresh players) to get the games pace as high as possible. High motor, high motivation, & bodies everywhere.

    Should be entertaining to watch.

    Go Rockets, today is part of our future.
     
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    that's exactly what i picked. tough choice between him and sengun, but eason has true two - way potential.
     
  20. htownborn34

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    I actually agree even though I choose Sengün over Tari, it’s mainly by default because Tari probably won’t play as much early on and we’re kind of hoping Sengün can be similar to Jokic. But it’s hard to not say Tari because he has potential to be a very good 2 way player and to have that next to Green and Jabari going forward would give us potentially one of the best defensive squads in the NBA for years
     

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