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Which 2-man combos would you say are better than Berkman/Lee?

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by bchapman101, Mar 2, 2007.

  1. bchapman101

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    think Berkman and Lee will have incredible years, rivaling the best in baseball. The stats will be amazing. Any doubts?
     
  2. TMac#1

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    Papi and Manny - duh

    But Berkman is flat out the best hitter in baseball IMO and he and Lee are going to be very productive.
     
  3. LonghornFan

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    Everett/Ausmus.

    This thread is over.
     
  4. yaopao

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    I love Berkman, but he is not a better hitter than Pujols and it could be argued that he's not a better hitter than Manny.
     
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    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    ARod/Giambi
    Manny/Ortiz
     
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    Beltran\Delgado.
     
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    dude that was hilarious
     
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    i think you're missing the point. he's not comparing Berkman to any other single hitter. he's comparing Berkman/Lee to any other duo out there.

    who is Pujols' Carlos Lee? Scott Rolen.

    i'd take Berkman/Lee over Pujols/Rolen in terms of production this season.
     
  11. The Cat

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    Lee and Delgado are around the same, but Berkman is clearly a superior hitter to Beltran, making Berkman/Lee the better duo.

    Thome/Dye are a better duo based on last year, but Dye's 2006 screams career year. Assuming he regresses to his norm, Berkman/Lee will be better.
     
  12. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    Berkman/Lee will be the best 1-2 punch this year. Better than Popi and Manny, Pujols/Rolen, in that order.

    That's some straight homer talk right there. Berkman is top 3-5 in baseball right now, but Pujols will end up being one of the all-time great hitters of all time.
     
  13. Major

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    I think he was responding to TMac#!'s post about Berkman.

    Other possibilities:

    Berkman / Ensberg (good Ensberg)
    Beltran / Wright
    Howard / Utley
    D. Lee / Soriano

    Berkman's better than all of those guys, but all of them are better than Carlos Lee. Keep in mind that Lee has never had a season with a 0.900 OPS.
     
  14. justtxyank

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    Ortiz/Manny is significantly better.
    A-Rod/Giambi is better

    Pujols/and a healthy Rolen could be better
    Haffner/Martinez can be better

    Berkman is an all-world hitter, but Carlos Lee is not. His highest HR total ever is 32 and his highest full season OPS ever is only .891. That's nice but not amazing.

    Ortiz, Giambi, etc. all top that.

    For example, last year in what many considered a down year, Alex Rodriguez posted a .914 OPS, 23 points higher than Lee.

    In terms of counting stats, Berkman and Lee will both have the issue that the overall team obp will still be low. Here's hoping Chris Burke thrives as the leadoff hitter, because he could be the key to a good offense, not Carlos Lee.
     
  15. Nick

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    Pujols is already doing what NOBODY has ever done in his first 5 years in the big leagues.

    I mean, if this guy goes on to play another 15 years (which is wishful thinking, given his body-type which could be prone for breakdown later in his career)... he may very well be the best hitter ever.

    That is scary.
     
  16. The Cat

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    Lee hit 37 HR last year.
     
  17. justtxyank

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    Yeah you're right. I forgot to add his two teams totals.

    Still, the point stands despite his one big year hitting homeruns. He is not anywhere near the hitter that Berkman is, nor guys like A-Rod, Ortiz, Manny, Giambi, Pujols, Hafner, etc.
     
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    glaus and wells are a good combo in toronto..i see them having a great year

    still think we have the better combo though
     
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    1) Manny/Ortiz
    2) Berkman/Lee
    3) Soriano/Lee
     
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    Burke is going to have a coming out party this year. Top of the order and he will see a lot of fastballs as pitchers try to bypass him quickly and get to the heart of the order with no runners on. If Ensberg has a strong year, and I think he will, we are going to have a very devastating offensive lineup. The addition of Lee allows everyone else to be better, to see better pitches.
     

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