1. Afgahnastan when Russia invaded, I don't remember world protests then. 2. In China when the Tianemin square rights were brutally crushed, where were people protesting China and not buying chinese products then? It seems that most of the protests are so virulant because it is the USA that is doing the action. No one protested us doing this same thing in Kosovo in 1998, even though Russia threatened to veto UN sanctions, so France and Germany pulled the resolution and asked us to attack to help out....we did, no mass protest then. The world and public opinion are so fickle.....if this war is over in a couple of weeks and we start building Iraq, protests will die down and the rest of the world will fall in line and be back to normal. It just seems hypocritcal to me.... DD
DaDakota, I think someone needs to take your temperature. Aren't you aware that the bombs with an 'R' are a violation of international peace?
It is very hypocrital. And it wasn't too long ago that American power saved Europe. It didn't take very long for them to think that this same power now how has developed evil motives. What is the rationale behind this? For years we have been allies and this is how we get treated. It's pretty sad.
Much (not all) of the protesting in the name of "anti-war" is actually "anti-US." before everyone gets their panties in a wad...i'm not saying that if you're anti-war you're necessarily anti-US..but i think it's pretty damn clear when signs at protests in France read, "We Love you Saddam."
Dak - you think maybe the American MEDIA has something to do with this, how many channels covered the Russia v Afghanistan match-up. As for the Tianemin Square stuff, the whole world saw it and was disgusted with, turned a blind eye to human rights violations and gave them the Olympics. In some ways i actually feel Australian should do nothing over Tianemin, cause we can't call out another country over human rights until we deal with our own.
The world is tired of us as the sole superpower, when we were up and coming everyone loved us. Think of us like the Dallas Cowboys of the 90's. Everyone jumps on the bandwagon, then the world is ready to move on to something new. Watch China become a celebrated nation when they launch a man into space.
...and then when they beat the hell out of their "astronauts" who decide there really is a God when they get back.
What the hell are you talking about? American power did indeed save Europe. Apparently you have accepted your own revisionist history as fact???
Macbeth, Revisionist history my A$$. If it were not for America and its natural resources & industry and troops, Germany would have been unchecked in Europe. Sure Russia played a HUGE part in the war, but it was OUR support that allowed Russia to turn the corner and get off of it's heels. We were a part of a large allied coalition that saved Europe, we may not be soley responsible, but we played a MAJOR role in the liberation of Europe. I would think that all the men who died liberating our supposed allies would be VERY offended by your sarcasm. DD
Where were the PRO-war/doing something/euphomisms people as well? I know my excuse, I was just a kid Rowanda and Kosovo, I didn't hear about their problems until after the fact.
1) We got involved to protect ourselves, not liberate Europe, so by your definition we should equally be thanking the USSR and Europe for helping to protect us. 2) the USSR didn't play a HUGE part...they played far and away the biggest part, and were doing so long before we got involved...Yes we were essential, but no more so and arguably less so than either the USSR or Great Britain. Saying we are the ones who saved them is like claiming that your left leg is the one which keeps you from falling, and the right should be thankfull.
<B>1) We got involved to protect ourselves, not liberate Europe, so by your definition we should equally be thanking the USSR and Europe for helping to protect us.</b> Germany didn't pose a threat to the United States at all, that wasn't to save the United States. Japan attacked the United States so in order to deal with them the United States got Japan's ally out of the way and then personally dealt with Japan. The United States could have easily dealt with Japan without stepping foot in Europe. <b>the USSR didn't play a HUGE part...they played far and away the biggest part, and were doing so long before we got involved...Yes we were essential, but no more so and arguably less so than either the USSR or Great Britain. Saying we are the ones who saved them is like claiming that your left leg is the one which keeps you from falling, and the right should be thankfull. </b> The United States brought fresh troops and a boost to the war and helped tilt things in the Allies favor. Hitler didn't want anything to do with the United States, why do you think he didn't say or do anything to the U.S. while fighting the Allies? Now if he had defeated Britian, the USSR, and the others then I'm pretty sure he would have turned his attention to the United States, but up until that point he didn't want to deal with the U.S., and he might have gone crazy over there if Japan hadn't attacked the United States and basically woke them up and brought them into the war.
Wrong on both counts...Hitler declared war on the United States, not the other way around. Hitler launched a naval attack against us before we did anything to him...Germany was a threat to us...that was the only reason we got involved; self-interest. Europe in general and Churchill in particular asked us to get involved for the 2 years of WWII prior to Peral Harbour, viting our treaties of mutual protection with them, and we declined...repeatedly. By revisionist history I mean exactly that: many Americans still have the notion that we got involved to save Europe, and don't even know that A) we declined the opportunity to do so with regularity and overwhelming public support for years, and B) Hitler declared war on us. That is revisionist history...we got in to protect ourselves from someone we were at war with whether we liked it or not; the fact that we fought said war in Europe was only a combination of circumstance and fortune.
Let's see...lend Lease...activated 2 years after the beginning of WWII and a mere months before Pearl harbour...an agreement wherein Great Britain agrees to turn over several naval bases throughout the world to the United States in exchange for the US postponing payment for some armaments...this happening, it should be noted, while the US, or American industry at any rate, is simultaneously the single greatest foreign supplier of arms to the Germans, later acknowledged in the war profiteering trials...cough..er..cough...This is spite of the fact that we had signed a mutual protection pact with Britain, which we then ignored for 2 years, and then made a deal wherein we recieved greater value than we gave...This is us selflessly saving Europe?
