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When looking at a greatness of a player...

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by SK34, Jun 12, 2013.

  1. SK34

    SK34 Member

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    How do you measure it?

    The overall body of work? What does it mean when you say "body of work"?

    I know rings doesnt determine if a player is great or not in its entirety.
     
  2. heypartner

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    Primarily, the amount of resources a defensive coordinator has to put into containing the player; ie., game-planning, practice time, double teams, etc. As an analogy, Mike Ditka once said the if Refrigerator Perry makes the opposing team's goal-line defense practice just 2 hours to stop a 1 yrd drive, then that is success in itself. Same applies to basketball.

    Conversely for defensive players, the amount of freedom the player gives the defensive coordinator to apply resources to other game plan issues.
     
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  3. J.R.

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    Maybe this thread will be more successful than the last one.

    :p
     
  4. Jontro

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    I look at how awesome the player looks in documentary videos or fan-made highlights.
     
  5. SK34

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    Lol maybe. I tend to forget. It's not good for a 19 year old to forget so easily but oh well. Thanks for pointing it out. It's always something new when discussing MJ vs Lebron vs Kobe or Tim Duncan vs. Hakeem Olajuwon.
     
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  7. Canadiandude

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    How much influence one has in the outcome of a season. Great ones don't impact their own teams, but the entire league.
     
  8. CometsWin

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    Cleverly disguised Jeremy Lin thread.
     
  9. KDavis

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    I look at their absolute peak and compare at that point
     
  10. GreatOne1978

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    - Is he one of the best players at his position year in and year out despite the bests among him's names keep changing?
    - Does the defense double and triple team him without the ball? That makes him lethal

    These are the true indications of a great player
     
  11. bullardfan

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    Individual and team accomplishments
    Did he lead his team to numerous championships?
    Did he lead the league in any stats?
    Did he have an unyielding will to win? (e.g. MJ, Hakeem, Kobe, Duncan)
    How did he impact the game?
     
  12. dharocks

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    Probably something like 60% Peak value, 40% Longevity & Consistency

    I generally measure value by how much he impacts the game and his teammates' performance. Being able to maximize one's own talents as well as those of your teammates will always translate to greater team success than simply being able to get yours (which is one of the reasons why it was so laughable when people were saying that Durant was going to eclipse LeBron).
     
  13. jvu

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    MJ doesn't flop. Therefore he's the greatest player ever

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