I don't get it. Boki gets so much love here on the BBS, yet proved very little during his time with the Rockets. OK, I'll give him credit(alot of credit) for his plays against Karla Malone in the playoffs last year. That will go down as one of the more memorable moments for any fan that witnessed the rivalry years of the 1990's between the Rockets and the Jazz. But seriously, Boki hasn't really done anything else to warrant the "trade commodity" or icon status that so many here have given him. People are saying that he wasn't given a chance to develop or flourish. Are you kidding??? He's been here for almost 3 years, under Rudy T and JVG. He could barely crack garbage time under Rudy. Under JVG he played most of his NBA minutes and was never consistent. His defense was lacking and shot unreliable. He couldn't create for himself, nor for others. His strength was running in a fast paced, unstructured game, but even there he was a limited player. Boki was a lottery ticket. We took a chance and didn't win. He just hasn't showed any strong signs that he would ever become a reliable, consistent, productive player. There was absolutely no reason to hinge any trade on Boki Nachbar.
i don't know, but i couldn't help picking up my boki bobblehead a couple of times yesterday. i think he's going to get things figured out in n.o. and then make us look like the 'tards that we are.
Great post Pimp. I think in a way that Boki = Rudy (of Notre Dame). Everyone (including myself) rooted for him to succeed. I think you are right on as far as Boki thriving in an uptempo, un structured style of play. That obviously wasn't going to happen here, whether JVG is here or not. When your center piece is Yao, IMO, it is best to keep the game at a slower pace and focus on half court posessions. Boki just didn't appear comfortable and couldn't find his rhythm as a weakside shooter off the doubles. Ive always got the feeling that he needs to be a focal point of the offense, have the ball in his hands, to be productive. Im glad you pointed out that Rudy played him even less than JVG did. And this was Rudy's pick. The theory that JVG was holding Boki back from being a force is just hogwash IMO.
I seem to recall hearing the same thing about this one long, athletic guy with a deadly shooting touch in practice named Dan Langhi.
What Boki did when he played this season- 1. Hustled and played hard defense. 2. Rebound 3. Make good entry passes to Yao 4. Hit the 3 at a decent % 5. Drive the lane and get to the hoop 6. Pretty decent ballhandler/ low TO's 7. Foul alot 8. he didn't make alot of mistakes 9. hit free throws I would say as far as pure talent he is better than Padgett and for what he brings to the team as a role player no worse than anyone else on the bench. He has alot more to offer than Ryan Bowen. He is young and still developing. He had quickness and he is long. His biggest draw back was that he was a slasher and struggled to hit the open 3 (I think due to lack of rythem and confidence) I don't know why Boki couldn't get minutes. He is much more aggressive and athletic than Dan Langhi Something tells me he needs playing time and confidence to become a very good role player in the league. Well he's not all star caliber for sure, and he may be a bust, but he was better than most the other role players we have in my opinion. I would have rather packaged any one of the PF we have (except maybe Howard) But we just couldn't do anything with those horrible contracts.
Boki in the three years never showed any real progress. I rooted for him because he was a Rocket but I wasn’t that bothered that he was traded. I don’t believe he’s going to become a breakout star in New Orleans. He just hasn't shown any of that type of potential
Just wait until what happens when he hits a couple of shots with the Hornets. We're going to see about 10 "I told you so" threads start up in the span of half an hour. So now along with the Francis and EG threads, we get to see Boki threads every time he scores a bucket.
I will be the first in line with the I TOLD YOU SO POST. Just watching the few minutes that he got you could see that he can be an effective player. He hustles, he crashes the boards, and he moves without the ball. The guy is only 22 years old, what is with this team giving up it's young talent? EG, KT, JP, Boki.....everytime a player starts to enter his prime we trade him or let him go somewhere else. Boki will be a solid player in the league, and we will rue this day. DD
lol I just looked up his net +/- stats this year. Worst on the team at -13 per game. In comparison, Padgett is a +17. Boki wasn't helping this team on the court, and it looks like he may have been hurting us.
Codell, Those stats are very misleading, if basketball was simply one player versus one player they would be worth somthing. But, a lot depends on whom is on the floor with you, especially a player like Boki. Don't worry, I am warming up my "I told ya so" posts for Boki's New Orleans explosion. DD
Misleading? They are facts. lol This team performs worse when Boki is on the court than any other player on the team. He shares the court with the same players that the rest of the team does. Yet Im sure you will never say, "i was wrong" if Boki does not meet your lofty expectations.
Yes, in New Orleans he will be with players with more similarity to his given skill set, which is known as "sucky".
Boki will be better if he gets minutes on the court, and hits some open shots giving him confidence. He is a young player with height, hop, talent and handles. Not a finished work but he had more potential than JJ, Padgett over the long run. He could make plays, do you remember his block on Malone. His 3's this season, he was starting to slash to the basket and he was always a hustle guy who harrassed on defense. He wasn't and isn't a star, but could have been a pretty good player. Still will be if he does those things he can with some playing time.
yes. simply because he will actually get playing time. I don't know if it was how he was doing in practices or not but I know that he was in Van Gundy's dog house. With that in mind, he was always on a short leash and nobody can ever succeed with a guy all over your back one second you make a mistake. At least now, he'll get a fresh start with a new coach. He can come in and play more loose and free, especially now that the team is playing so poorly, i'm pretty sure the organization wants to see what he can do. Just like DaDa, I'm preparing my "i told you so" posts as well. I have a couple of Key members here that I would love to blast when boki starts producing.
i'm so glad you cleared that up for me. i'm still waiting on the obligatory, "i hope boki comes to town and lights up the Rockets." great fans.
Sure, since now he will actually get to play on the court, and get comfortable in his role. Codell, If Boki continues to suck I will admit that I was wrong, but I just see something in his game that I like, he hustles, he crashes the boards, and he passes well. He needs to go to a team that moves the ball, and he will succeed.... DD
wow..you guys really have this whole thing figured out. maybe if our whole team could suck even more than we could get more minutes for the really sucky players so they might become average. great work!
I don't see how anyone can write him off, when he has not gotten a chance to get comfortable. The guy has skills, and has heart, and is athletic as heck, AND has a high BBall IQ. What he is not, is a great defender...but I don't see anyone complaining about Peja or Dirk being lousy defenders? Boki is a GOOD player who will make the Rockets management seem like the impatient boobs that they are....... We can't get a Sam Cassell type player if we never give them the chance to play......... DD
