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Whats up with Jermaine Lewis???

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by JamesC, Aug 26, 2002.

  1. JamesC

    JamesC Member

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    I just cant help but wonder, whats the deal with Jermaine Lewis? I've never seen a reciever drop that many passes,and he's been wide open for a lot of them. And not to mention he is a pro-bowler. A lot of the other recievers have dropped wide open passes too. I love the Texans but if the recievers cant catch passes its gonna be a long year.
     
  2. rezdawg

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    Lewis isnt a true receiver. He tried to be one in Baltimore, but last year he couldnt even crack the top 3 on that wide receiverless team. We just dont have any other options and that is why he is our receiver.
     
  3. Refman

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    Agreed. It does seem that Lewis is a big offender here. If I were Capers I'd have Bradford and Gaffney starting, witrh Black as an occasional slot receiver.
     
  4. MadMax

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    Catch the damn ball, Jermaine!!!!

    whew..finally...been watching the games with my 2 year old son and trying to hold my tongue...at least i can vent in here!! :)
     
  5. Refman

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    Next time just leave the little guy with your wife for a few minutes...go to your car...get inside it...and swear until you feel better. :D
     
  6. PhiSlammaJamma

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    Does he want to be a WR? Cause it sure doesn't look like it. I'm serious. Earl Campbell caught more balls. You'd think a WR at this level could put the ball away. That's what he is paid to do.
     
  7. MadMax

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    SERENITY NOW!!!!!


    i've had to hold my tongue a bit...trying to be an example of patience and not blowing up...but it's hard with sports! i'm learning...i still say, "come on..catch the ball!!" I just don't lace it with choice words that might spill out in the heat of football passion! :)
     
  8. Lil Francis

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    Maybe David Boston will sign with us next year when his contract runs out.
     
  9. rezdawg

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    Here is my take on the receivers dropping the ball. It seems as if they are very intimidated by Carr's throws. Its as if when they see Carr throwing to them, they are thinking, "Oh ****, here it comes". That shouldnt be the mentality. They should be thrilled that the ball is coming their way, not scared. I have to admit, Carr does throw a bullet. I can honestly say that he zips it a solid 5-10 mph faster than the average QB. I dont know if that difference is big enough to make an impact, but it may.

    Kevin Johnson of the Browns is on the trading block. We may consider taking him off their hands. He is small for a receiver, but he can get open and he can haul in passes that hit his hands. Having a receiving trio of Johnson, Gaffney, and Bradford could be solid.
     
  10. Hey Now!

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    let's not get carried away... he throws hard, but not that hard. besides, these guys have been practicing with him since may; everyday since june 20; they should be used to him by now. not to mention, they're professionals -- if they're afraid of the ball... we've got some serious problems.

    i think it's a simply case of these receivers not being very good and/or young and inexperienced.

    actually, they recently extended his deal, so he's off the block. not worth the high pick(s) they would've asked for, anyway.
     
  11. Refman

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    My wife has told me that when we have little ones that I have to build a soundproof room to watch sports in. :D
     
  12. rezdawg

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    Sorry to break it to you, but 5 mph isnt that much out of the question. There is no doubt that Carr can throw harder than:

    Aaron Brooks
    Quincy Carter
    Chris Chandler
    Kerry Collins
    Trent Dilfer
    Brad Johnson
    Jim Miller
    Danny Wuerffel
    Jeff Blake
    Drew Brees
    Mark Brunell
    Jay Fiedler
    Rich Gannon
    Brian Griese
    Jon Kitna
    Steve McNair
    Kordell Stewart
    Vinny Testaverde

    I would say there may be about 3-4 players that could throw harder than Carr.
     
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  13. ROXRAN

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    Just wondering which QB's you think throws harder? I am not disagreeing with you btw...
     
  14. Supermac34

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    I'm not sure about that list. I'll admit that Carr has a cannon, but there are some guys on that list that could probably give him a run for his money.

    Just because they can throw hard doesn't mean these guys do all the time. A lot of those guys have this thing called "touch." Its what you put on the ball when your receiver is only like 7 yards away from you and you want him to catch it. But if they needed to zing it through the defense they could pull that out too.

    Carr zings it on every play, whether he needs to or not. He would be more successful if he could learn to lay the ball into the hands of the receivers when he has to.

    Carr needs to learn some "touch."
     
  15. Hey Now!

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    oh, carr throws the ball hard, no question about it, but hard enough to put the fear into guys who've been catching not only his passes the past three months, but passes in general for most of their lives? i mean, the fresno state receivers never seemed to have a problem holding onto his lasers.
     
  16. moonnumack

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    Carr's bullet throws resemble those of a certain decent QB in the league: Brett Favre. Garcia is also a guy who seems to gun it a lot. I wouldn't be disappointed at all if he turned out like these guys, although I do agree with the need to improve on his discretion with the touch pass.
     
  17. moonnumack

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    As for Jermaine Lewis, I hope he hasn't forgotten how to return kicks cuz that's what we'll really need him for this year.
     
  18. gr8-1

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    It seems like every year, they say so and so throws so hard. They said that about Shuler, but then they said Frerotte had a bigger arm. Ditka also said Kerry Collins threw harder than Schuler as well.

    Some have said Brad Johnson has a cannon. But, now, in Tampa, they say Rob has an even stronger arm.

    McNair won the QB long throw one year. He, Brooks, Favre, Bledsoe, and a couple others have arms as strong as Carr's. John Elway, if he were still playing, would still be in the top 3 to 4. Testaverde had a cannon as well.
     
  19. rezdawg

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    There is a HUGE difference between throwing hard and throwing long. McNair may be able to go deep, but he cannot throw hard. I have seen him up close and he cannot touch Carr. Of course, the most I have seen of Carr is during practice about 30 yards away. In any case, McNair cant throw a bullet pass like Carr. Same goes for Brooks. Favre and Bledsoe have as good as or better arm strength than Carr.

    Also, Im not saying that other QB's dont have strong arms. It doesnt matter if Rob Johnson has a stronger arm than Brad Johnson. My point is that Carr blows them out of the water.

    I also agree that Testaverde HAD a strong arm. I also agree that Elway WOULD still have a strong are IF he was still playing. All of this is irrelevant. My whole point is that as of now, Carr has a strong enough arm to land him somewhere towards the top of all QBs.
     
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  20. Hey Now!

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    actually, technically speaking... your point was that he threw so hard, the receivers were afraid to catch his passes, thus accounting for all the drops.
     

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