Can someone explain to me why using Yao for pick n roll help the team more than hurting the team?? Because first of all, this play rarely work. I am sick of seeing this play over and over. JVG did it and i guess Adelman just want to imitate him. Here are the benefit and cost of using Yao for pick n roll: Benefit: His huge body size can help free up Tmac for a long jump shot...right? (Ok, let's think about this for a min. Do you really need Yao to help Tmac get an open shot?? Hell no....they don't need this bullshyt because Tmac can create his own shot ANY TIME). Cost: 1. Wasting Yao energy running outside with his huge body weight. 2. Nobody is rebounding when Tmac is taking jump shot. Your big man Yao should be inside trying to get a second chance or something. They ought to utilize Yao's height to get offensive rebound. 3. Yao rarely receive back the pass during pick n roll..so what's the point of using him?? He's too slow to receive one and not athletic to dunk from afar anyway. You see how the cost of using Yao outweight the benefit?? There is no point of using Yao for pick n roll whatsoever. It seems to be like they just want Yao to DO SOMETHING just for the sake of doing something because to me they can always use Scola for pick and roll and it will be just as effective if not more effective than Yao since Scola rolling to the basket is much quicker and more dangerous than doing it with Yao. They ought to conserve Yao's energy and make him stay inside to try to get offensive rebounds. That gives you a better chance of winning game than using Yao for pick n roll. My opinion......
p&r is the hardest play in the nba yet has a simplest form. i could be wrong, but i think the mcgrady-yao p&r wasn't run correctly most of the time, other than maybe the dallas series.
I approve of this post, particularly because Tracy hardly ever seems to use the pick, instead faking one way and rolling away from Yao, who has sacrificed his position for any potential offensive rebound. But then again, there are so many things about Adelman's gameplan and choices that are plain bizarre.
^^ it has nothing to do with adelman. the tracy-yao pnr has been a staple here in houston ever since jvg arrived. the OP brings up very valid points in theory, but the rockets have been doing it for 5 years so far and don't look to change anything so something must be going right when they do it.
pick and roll can be used for different things... It be used to get Yao deeper position in the post if they decide to trap the pick or even show a little. It's extremely effective with Yao because his man is usually a big guy and Yao does a good job of picking off the dribbler's man forcing them to switch.
yeah yao isn't mobile to roll fast enough especially in the high pick and rolls. it's effective with landry/hayes and tmac though.
Well i seen enough of Rockets game to know that that pick n roll w/ Yao is not a smart play. It never work and was never efficient. They continue using it because they don't have any play sets for Yao other than having him post up. Like i say, they're using Yao for pick n roll just for the sake of giving him something to do...which is pretty stupid to me. Adelman don't have the gut to change up the play and use Scola instead.
A lot of other teams have more athletic centers. With the speed Tmac having now, he can not penetrate effectively after they switch the defense. And the Rockets is short at players who are good at penetrating or shooting mid range jumpers. So it's hard for the Rockets to play a good pnr. Now I'm thinking about reviewing the pnr betwen Yao and Fransis in the earlier years. Fransis was better at penetrating at that time. So the pnr should be much more effective. I don't remember though. Could anyone look at it?
Hmm. Why is it that McGrady can perform the PnR so much better with Mutombo? I remember watching him last year and the years before, and Mutombo was a personal shield of his. He brings mutombo out and gets either a player open or makes a shot. I remember the Mutombo McGrady PnR used on the Suns over 8 times last year. Clutch's video has it, the game where Yao was already down and we killed the Suns by 20. I'm gonna check out what the difference between Yao's pick and Mutombo's pick is. I have a feeling it's because Yao doesn't get physical enough on the pick. Mutombo probably bumps the guy really hard on the pick allowing McGrady to get open, but then again if Yao did it it's an offensive foul.
I don't know, maybe they should try to let Yao collect the ball and shoot a wild open midrange jumper sometimes?
Yao running the pick and roll is less taxing on his body than banging down low on the post up...and it gives the opponents something else to prepare for...good job RA. DD
when Tmac was healthy and hitting his shots.. the Tmac/Yao P&R combination was deadly. (think 04-05) Almost unstoppable.. but I digress.
Yao has such a wide base, that I believe he sets the best picks in basketball. The rockets just don't have a lot of players that can exploit those picks to the fullest. Brooks is a guy that I would like to see run the pick and roll with Yao more because of his ability to shoot over the top of the pick or get to the basket on the switch.
Tracy has a worse shoot percentage and the p & r creates his shoot and wastes Yao's energy since he never passes the ball back to Yao!!!! It's not good for Yao and for the whole team right now!!
Running PnR with your big is a common play. It draws the other team's big out of the paint, thereby opening up lanes for penetration. And because the other team has to help without their center inside to protect, it can consequentially lead to open 3-pointers. Yao is not great at catching and shooting, or catching on the move and going to the basket. But if he they time it right, he could maybe get into the lane on a weaker defender, seal him, and then all he has to do is catch and drop down the jump hook. You can't get a better shot than that. So, there are a number of options that can come out of it.
someone finally nailed it. Why is the pick and roll only a success if Yao or Tmac gets the shot? When Yao rolls, the whole paint usually collapses on him, and we get wide open 3's. If they don't collapse as much, then Yao gets good position for either a seal or rebound. And by the way, Tmac needs all the help he can get getting his shot nowadays.
