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What's Les' motivation?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by NIKEstrad, Aug 15, 2001.

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  1. NIKEstrad

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    610 is saying that the Rockets' medical staff, Rudy, and CD are all comfortable with Rice's health, but not Les. Les is the boss, so he's the one to convince.

    I just don't get it. Maybe he doesn't like small forwards. He also allegedly tried to block the deal we got for Morris as well.

    Obviously, he wants good return on a 20+ mill investment, but why is he concerned about Rice's foot when his 2 main basketball people, and his medical staff aren't?

    This doesn't make PR sense either.

    Why seed doubt about a guy's foot who's about to be on your team? Kind of alienates him before he arrives.

    Why does he want to turn down a 3-time all star, who's got a career scoring average of 19.5, and has missed more than 7 games in a season only once, in return for a guy who wants huge dollars, is forced to play out of position, and vanishes offensively?

    There must be some motives for Les' actions.
     
  2. Bingo

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    Les probably knows Rice is over the hill and doesn't really help that much in the long term
     
  3. pippendagimp

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    Personally, I wouldn't second-guess Les on this. A guy like him who's been speculating on talent all his life can often get a hunch or feeling abt a situation or trade and want to think it over thoroughly first. If there is a chance that Rice will not be completely effective even after this coming season b/c of this injury, then Les is wise to pause and consider killing our cap for him.
     
  4. Dennis2112

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    This is all to make Fegan sweat a little..........

    I would not be surprised if Les waits until thursday night to sign off on it.

    My opinion is , I would like to have a HEALTHY Glen Rice on this team. I really think it will be for the best. However, if Rice's injury is worse than we have been told, damaged goods at that price tag is not a good thing.
     
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    Maybe's he simply trying to spite Fegan.
     
  6. Tmo

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    Perhaps he had a revelation about tmo fluorishing at the three, and immediately so.
     
  7. RunninRaven

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    Didn't oilepere say that of all the medical experts giving their opinion on Rice's heath, there was no consensus that he would be okay? I understood that some of these experts had some misgivings, and I just figured Les wanted to have all of those misgivings explored before we made the deal official.
     
  8. Thanos

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    I agree with Nike. There's definetely something going on behind the scenes that we don't have a clue about.

    Les, IHMO anyway, would never do a thing like this just to piss Fegan off.

    Something is up, and possibly Les doesn't even have anything to do with it. It may be just a smokescreen.

    Maybe a better deal for Shandon surfaced.

    Maybe Rice's health is really questionable, and they are considering other offers that may not be as risky as getting him.

    I don't know. Your guess is as good as mine. As long as Rice packs his bags, I don't care.
     
  9. Rocketability

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    Tmo ... :D ok ok ...
     
  10. RocksMillenium

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    No disrespect to Les, I don't know if he has been speculating on talent all of his life or not, but wouldn't the coaching staff, general manager, and medical staff have a lot more of an idea about Rice's health and how he fits on the team then the owner of the team? It's his money, but just because you shell out the dough doesn't mean you're always right. Why did he try to block the trade of a pick for Morris!?
     
  11. Tmo

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    Perhaps his blocking the rice trade is to make it up to tmo. This is post-revelation, naturally.
     
  12. Thanos

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    Of course they would. That's exactly why something else must be up. If Les really is acting completly on his own and disregarding Rudy's and CD's opionion like that, it borders on complete disrespect, something Les has never been known to do.

    One thing is TRYING to block the Griffin trade. That's the key word here. TRYING. He doesn't have to try anything at all. It's his ballclub, his money. If he doesn't agree, things fall through. Simple as that.
     
  13. NIKEstrad

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    I thought I'd add the latest from 610.

    MRI results are expected "any minute now". This was 15-20 minutes ago. The Rockets won't announce the results until their decision is final. This means, IMO, the longer the wait, the more likely the trade could be rescinded.

    I also doubt this is just to spite Fegan. Maybe not a bad secondary motive, or perhaps tactics to drive down the Moochie price, but I can't see it as just that.

    The guys on 610 mentioned CD/Rudy haven't been perfect with Les' money, with Maloney/Cato. They also didn't mention another free agent sharpshooter (with an injury, nonetheless) we signed to a long term deal, that has been pretty bad, thankfully elsewhere, in Brent Price.

    RocksMill-Les didn't like the Morris trade at first based on the premise of trading a future first round pick for a 2nd rounder.
     
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    Me thinks Les' motivation is paying 20.7 mil over three years to a guy that spends a lot of time on the IR...
     
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    That's might not be true Thanos. Les doesn't come across to me as an owner who just steps in and says "No I don't want this and this is final". He has respect for his staff, so if he disagree he looks like somebody who would sit down and talk to the staff. Thus, if he "Tries to block" something, probably goes up to them and tells them why he is considering nixing it, and then they talk it over. That's my guess.
     
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    <b>RocksMill-Les didn't like the Morris trade at first based on the premise of trading a future first round pick for a 2nd rounder.</b>

    Ah, I see NIKE, that makes sense now. It's nice to have an owner who at least thinks about basketball and not just money. At least I can start to see things from Les side if he doesn't like the Rice deal. He must have a reason. Or something else is going on.

    <b>Me thinks Les' motivation is paying 20.7 mil over three years to a guy that spends a lot of time on the IR...</b>

    Rice only missed 7 games last year, and I don't think he was on the IR. I don't think he missed more then a few games the year before, if any.
     
  17. Timing

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    If this deal is rejected by Les we lose Bullard anyway. That stinks if we lose Bull based on a deal that would add a shooter that won't be here.
     
  18. Thanos

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    But that's exactly what I meant man... you misunderstood me. I agree with you completely. That's why I don't buy that he is the reason this is taking so long. something else must be up!
     
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    Ooops, sorry Thanos, I misunderstood what you said. :) This should get interesting. I wonder if the Rockets are trying to get "compensation". ;)
     
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    Personally, I hope some team with a center to trade (preferably Cleveland or Chicago) has made a tempting offer. However, keeping Danny F on tenterhooks is a wonderfully nice bonus. Twist in the wind, baby! Whew! I love venting. Please forgive me. However, I do have faith that CD and RT will come up with the right solution whether it be Rice or someone else.
     

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