https://www.cdc.gov/healthyyouth/data/yrbs/pdf/YRBS_Data-Summary-Trends_Report2023_508.pdf https://www.vox.com/a/teens https://theweek.com/health-and-wellness/1021275/the-youth-mental-health-crisis https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/learning/whats-going-on-in-this-graph-may-11-2022.html The kids are not alright. There is something amiss. Teenagers and 20 somethings are collectively depressed at higher rates than ever. They are collectively are having less sex, drinking less, and using less recreational drugs (besides opioids). They are getting into fewer fights. You might say "but kids are collectively engaging in safer behaviors". But the kids are plugged into their phones and are disconnected from reality. Fitter, healthier and more productive A pig In a cage On antibiotics
Answer: They don't leave the house, they don't go outside, they don't hang out with friends in person.
This, and as a result they do not know how to talk to other people and are scared to do so. The young men are incels often, they view women as basically **** dolls.... and there expectations are based on anime and squid p*rn and don't understand that they need to do something more than just wanting sex, to actually get sex. The young women have less pressure than ever to get married or have children. They can get boyfriends if they want, but their expectations of a mate are higher than ever, and they see how clueless men are...... sexual fluidity is acceptable now, so they can just eat bush and watch Tictok afterwards and fall asleep with more emotionally responsive female partners.... those that are dating men, are often dating older men...... and they are as educated and making as much as the boys. So as a result, the women wanting to get laid are getting laid - but the young men largely are not. So we have a bunch of young men that have very little to offer women...... and they are not emotionally capable of meeting the emotional needs of young women and in some cases they are so entitled that women have figured out they don't need men at all. So American young men better start looking for wife's overseas or they better accept that they are not getting married....... because women would rather lick rugs or live with cats than deal with a lot of men.
The internet, in and of itself, is finally starting to pay it's dividends. I'm 35. I at least had a good 13 years or so spent pre-internet, and it took another 5 or so before it really took off. But this is mostly social media. You now have kids in high school and college that have grown up with social media.
I lean this way. I'm hearing a lot of blame thrown at social media, but I think its digitization more generally. I also think it's everyone and not just teens, but teens might just be the canary in the coal mine. Digitization has given us pale facsimiles of every kind of human interaction. Instead of talking to someone on the phone, you send a text; instead of having a meeting, you do a Zoom; instead of debating the GOAT at a sports bar, you type out arguments on a basketball bbs; instead of playing a sport, you play a video game and call it an e-sport; instead of looking at art, you look at AI-generated illustrations; instead of talking with friends, you chat with facebook friends; instead of trawling bars for a girl, you use a dating app. For every real experience where you can have a connection with other human beings, technologists have found a cheaper, scalable 'good enough' version that insulates people from the messy human-interaction part of human interaction. Singularly perhaps convenient, but cumulatively isolating and depressing.
The bottom set of charts is interesting - many more feed sad/hopeless, but suicide thoughts are coming down. I'm not sure what to make of that. This is also all pre-Covid, so I wonder how that has changed things.
https://www.pennlive.com/news/2019/03/sudden-cardiac-arrest-rare-in-student-athletes-youth.html Young, active – then gone. Fatal heart issues in teens are rare, but terrifying Updated: Mar. 07, 2019, 10:48 a.m.| Published: Mar. 07, 2019, 5:30 a.m.
I can't attribute social isolation to ARVC/D, HOCM, anomalous coronary arteries, nSVT, WPW, heart block, myocarditis, or any of the other genetic and inflammatory causes of SCD.
Honestly At the end of the day . . . I think they have higher expectations some unrealistic Which leads to more disppointments Kids are suppose to be unrealistic but over time you learn Rocket River
So . . . In your opinion is mainly men that are the problem? I don't think so but I am curious The changes are changes . . . more sexual liberation and fluidity leads to . .. more sexual liberation and fluidity people are adjusting . . . women have been expressing their new expectations for the last 3 decades men are finally beginning to express their more (beyond simply body types) What they say . .. 20% of the men are getting 80% of the women Honestly the Incel population's biggest issues is they care too much and have poor expectations mean while .. the Female population have poor expectations Women lament not getting relationships - but they can have almost unlimited sex Men lament not getting sex . . but if they want they can get a relationship at will The thing is . .. in both cases it will require them doing something they "don't think they should HAVE TO do to get it." <-- those expectations / Entitlements Rocket River
Agreed. A few things. The pandemic and quarantine for years broke kid's socialization. I think we're going to see lasting repercussions from this for lifetimes. The upside is that it isn't going to impact younger kids. Just the adolescents who experienced it. Those teenage formative years are so important. But it has changed the way our society works and I don't know if it will ever go back. Lazy parenting. We let digital devices do our parenting for us. I'm guilty of this and I will say it's extremely important to turn the ship around. Your kids are worth any amount of effort. Most people just lack the foresight or the ability to learn from big warning signs because they, too, are locked into the system. Social media and big data algorithms. Big tech has become deadly good at recognizing what you obsess over and feeding you more to keep your eyeballs glued and your dollars spent. If you ask me what the devil is, what's more dangerous than pure heroin, it's corporate-run internet. When you mix young, unsupervised, impressionable minds in, the output is a bunch of trained, captive, zombified consumers.
I honestly think if I was NOT running a lawn business that I'm active in, I would probably have been in worse shape today - but I love the sunshine. I love the work outside and I don't know how I would do if I had a corporate sit down job I know I would be in bad shape, healthy wise., I do think it's a combination of things just like with many things unfortunately, that is happening to the general populace at large as far as increase... New research conducted by the Universities of Southampton and Edinburgh in the UK, and published in the Journal of Investigative Dermatology, suggests that exposure to sunlight may help reduce blood pressure. In turn, this could cut the risk of heart attack and stroke
I don't think that this generation of men was raised to meet the expectations of them now. Women have higher expectations of men than in the past, and young men are struggling to adjust. Also, young women no longer have as much pressure to marry, and more than you would think are happy single. So, in a sense it is the fault of men because they are lacking - but on the other hand, that is how we raised them. I think it is the opposite, women now are the ones that have changed and are expressing expectations beyond what women have expected in the past. I don't think we will see men to be in a position to increase their expectations anytime soon. I used to believe the 20/80 rule, until I really looked into it. The reality is that it is based on one very small study where the participants were self selected. So, it has no real scientific value. When they have researched the topic in greater detail, they found that it isn't that 20% of men are sleeping with 80% of men. They found out that a lot of women were sleeping with other women, were sleeping with older men and were refraining from sex all together. Certainly women that want to have sex with men can, but they don't want to in the numbers we expected. Also, women are more afraid of men than most men know in the research. Not necessarily. I am sure there are some women that will end up having marriages with men that do not meet their high expectations - but a lot of younger women are not interested in having a nuclear family with a man and children. You have adoption, same sex marriages, younger women marrying older men, and women that are content being single.... there was a study a few years ago that found among people 25 years of age or less, men were over two times as likely to want children. It seems absurd, but we have seen this type of thing happen in Japan for example.
