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What would the Rockets Give for #11?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by thumbs, Jun 21, 2007.

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  1. thumbs

    thumbs Member

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    Atlanta is thinking about trading the #11. What player or package would you give for the #11 and perhaps a current Hawk?
     
  2. Sherlock

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    They need a point guard ... give them Rafer ... :)

    ... Rafer would do well there ... but, I doubt they'd take him. Rafer would do better in the NE where he was a legend.
     
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  3. Carl Herrera

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    I'm guessing anything but Tracy, Yao, and Shane.

    In other words, nothing Atlanta would particularly want.
     
  4. pasox2

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    They can have Battier. The problem is, they don't need him, as a basketball player. They only need him for his "leadership" . So... we got nothing.

    I'd love to trade for Sheldon Williams and the pick. We just don't have anything to trade. Head? Alston? Battier? Big whoop.
     
  5. pasox2

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    If the Rockets really wanted to shake things up, they would try to trade TMac for Joe Johnson and the pick, and maybe another young lotto player. Both teams could make the trade. Atlanta exits JJ's long contract for a shorter one, with a brighter star, Houston exits Tmac's bad back and picks up a pick, and possibly another young player.

    But they won't. That's just my idle thought.
     
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    They need guards, Rafer for Sheldon Williams. We both get what we need.
     
  7. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    outside of yao and tmac, nothing gets us close to the #11.
     
  8. xiki

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    Best guess, the only chance would be Rafe - Claxton + #26 & future #1 and/or Atlanta being 'in love' with Span or Head or Novak or or ...
     
  9. thumbs

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    How about this:

    Atlanta Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing

    Marvin Williams
    6-8 SF from North Carolina
    13.0 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 1.8 apg in 33.8 minutes

    Solomon Jones
    6-10 PF from South Florida
    3.3 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 0.2 apg in 11.6 minutes

    2007 Draft #11 Pick
    0-0 from
    No games yet played in 2006/07
    Incoming

    Shane Battier
    6-8 SF from Duke
    10.1 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.1 apg in 36.5 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -6.2 ppg, -3.4 rpg, and +0.1 apg.

    Houston Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing

    Shane Battier
    6-8 SF from Duke
    10.1 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.1 apg in 36.5 minutes
    Incoming

    Marvin Williams
    6-8 SF from North Carolina
    13.0 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 1.8 apg in 33.8 minutes

    Solomon Jones
    6-10 PF from South Florida
    3.3 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 0.2 apg in 11.6 minutes

    2007 Draft #11 Pick
    0-0 from
    No games yet played in 2006/07
    Change in team outlook: +6.2 ppg, +3.4 rpg, and -0.1 apg.


    Successful Scenario
    Due to Houston being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Houston had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
     
  10. killtaker

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    Yao & Tracy are in the primes of their careers and the window of opportunity is closing in a few years. So tell me again why we're talking about making a trade for the 11th pick who likely won't be able to contribute right away?
     
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    the grizzlies got the number 8 for battier
     
  12. smoothie

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    true but the rockets are trying to win right now, and they have a need for shane.

    are the hawks in need of another SF? are they trying to win right now? no to both. so why would they overpay for shane as the rockets did?
     
  13. RedRowdy111

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    This trade works through Realgm trade checker:

    Shelden Williams
    Salim Stoudamire
    11th pick

    for

    Rafer Alston
    Luther Head
    26th pick

    Why Atlanta does this trade:
    Atlanta needs help in the backcourt. This gives them some nice pieces. With the 3rd pick in the draft they can target the best available player (probably another PF) like Brandan Wright or Al Horford.

    Why Houston does this trade:
    They get a decent point guard off the bench with Salim and a big young girthy rebounder in Shelden. With the 11th pick they can gamble on another PF .

    Rockets Roster
    PG - James/Stoudamire/Lucas or V-Span
    SG - Mcgrady/Snyder
    SF - Batteir/Bonzi/ Novak
    PF - Hayes, Williams, 11th pick
    C - Yao, Deke
     
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    "THUMBS" you are over estimating Battier value he cannot bring an 11 pick and Marvin Willams who is already a better offensive player than him. It is a fantasy deal.
     
  15. CriscoKidd

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    Give them our "glue" guys - Battier and alston.

    For the 11 and whichever one of their promising young forwards that they wouldn't mind giving up.
     
  16. Ziggy

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    Hawks will not take Alston over Acie Law!!! Plain and simple. Trading their 3rd to Portland seems far more likely. If the Rockets want the 11nth they would have to give up more than that pick is worth.
     
  17. saleem

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    They got the #8 because of the Rockets desire to get Battier. Battier can't get us the number 11.
     
  18. Ehsan

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    Aren't they under the cap? So they can take back as much as they're under the cap?

    I would deal Alston + Head + #26 for their #11 and Batista (or whatever throw in).

    Head and Alston would fit in there and they both have very good contracts. They have the #3.


    I think they would rather trade the #3 though because at this point it's looking like the #11 pick in the draft will be as god as the #3 pick, and they will get more out of trading #3.
     
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    I actually think that would be beneficial for both teams...throw Josh Smith into the mix and that'd be a steal for us
     
  20. GATER

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    So your story is...

    keep the same old unathletic standstill shooters that can't create their own shots nor beat the Jazz...plug them into an uptempo system and halfcourt sets that require motion and precision passing...and we'll narrow the talent gap to the Spurs, Mavs and Suns with the upside provided by Battier, Head, Alston and an MLE.

    Brilliant.
     

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