OK, so we've heard from Doc. But remember, he's reporting trade thingies...not from Les (obviously)...but from the same people who we want out the door. duh So, imo, since we don't even trust the people who control what Doc Rocket is reporting...the best we can do is ask ourselves...WWRAD. With that acronymn...he'd definitely do something WWW.RAD!!!! He would blow out this team. And I mean *blow out* this team. Everyone who knows the history of Red would know that itty-bitty role player trades is not WWRAD; Red would treat Steve Francis like he did Bob McAdoo! Out the door! Francis for Kidd. There is no quicker, safer, more Red Auerbach way to turn this team into a fast-breaking team with a vet who <b>can teach Yao Ming how to really ROCK!</b> There is nothing more important for this franchise than to teach Yao to dominate and to run a passing game. Trading role players who "make Stevie better" make me puke. Why are we looking for ways to trade people to make Stevie better? Steve is supposed to make Yao better, no matter what position he plays.
i agree with all but trading steve and firing rudy bring in a fast breaking PG and keep steve at the two, and hire a new assistant coach.
Auerbach does not take any prisoners! He'd create a real dynasty. He doesn't care about ruffling feathers, or rubbing people the wrong way. In the end, he wins! Take it or leave it.
nice thread, heypartner. so we're playing "blow up the rockets", eh? here we go... keep francis, yao, hawkins, posey, and boki... TRADE EVERYBODY ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!!! here's my picks from the free agent list added with the players listed above: PG: John Stockton, Mark Jackson SG: Steve Francis, Jimmy Jackson, Jaquin Hawkins SF: Scottie Pippen, James Posey, Bostjan Nachbar PF: Elton Brand, Mark Madsen C: Yao Ming, Zhizhi Wang mark jackson would cost practically nothing. jacquin hawkins would cost practically nothing. mark madsen would cost practically nothing. zhizhi wang would cost a little bit. john stockton's age would lower his cost... i think. jimmy jackson would probably be affordable. scottie pippen would probably be affordable. the only person that would be kinda pricey would be brand. it's a perfect mixture of young potentials and crafty veterans. full of role players... who KNOW THEIR ROLE and won't try to exceed their role. full of leaders. full of expiring contracts if it doesn't work out or if a player decides to retire after next season. ok. go ahead.... bash me. oh yeah... almost forgot. bring in calvin murphy as coach.
Omega you missed the point blowing up means getting rid of a STAR, either Francis or Yao in this case, in case you didn't realise McAdoo was a big time scorer and Red went and traded him, that is blowing up, Kidd for Marbury is blowing up.
ok... hmmm... blowing up. hmmmm... star.... ok. well... cuttino mobley "thinks" that he's a star. i'm sure his publicist "thinks" he's a star too. doesn't that make him a star? kidding. ok... i was take francis off of the roster and throw in kendall gill coming off of the bench beind behind jimmy jackson.
argh!!! gosh darnit... no edit. i meant... "how about taking francis off of the roster and throwing in kendall gill. he could come off of the bench behind jimmy jackson." ken shouldn't be much either.
I don't think we can do this until we try the "Steve at the 2" project. Do YOU know before hand if Steve will make Yao betetr while Steve's at the 2 and we have another PG dumping it in to Yao (in good position)? Besides, Jason Kidd would not agree to this deal. I don't think I need to tell you that.
The better question is, what would Brian Boitano do? What would Brian Boitano do if he was here right now? He'd make a plan and he'd follow through, that's what Brian Boitano'd do. When Brian Boitano was in the Olympics, skating for the gold, he did two sao cows and a triple klutz, while wearing a blindfold. When Brian Boitano was in the Alps, fighting grizzly bears, he used his magical fire-breath, and saved the maidens fair! So what would Brian Boitano do, if he were here today? I'm sure he'd kick an ass or two, that's what Brian Boitano'd do. I want this V-chip out of me, it has stunted my vocabulary. And I just want my mum, to stop fighting everyone... for Wendy I'll be an activist too, cos that's what Brian Boitano'd do. And what might Brian Boitano'd do? He'd call all the Kids in town, and tell them to unite for truth, that's what Brian Boitano'd do. When Brian Boitano travelled through time to the year 3010, he fought the evil robot king, and saved the human race again. And when Brian Boitano built the pyramids, he beat up Kubla Khan, cos Brian Boitano doesn't take **** from a-ny-bo-dy, so let's get all the kids together, and unite to stop our mums, and we'll save Terrance and Phillip too, cos that's what Brian Boitano'd do... and we'll save Terrance and Phillip too, cos that's what Brian Boitano'd do. cos that's what Brian Boitano'd do!
Here's the problem - a half-court passing game and an open-court (fast break) passing game are not one and the same. While Kidd is obviously a great passer, he is clearly more adept at the latter type of game. Putting him in a system that emphasizes a half-court game would minimize his strengths (fast break) and magnify his main weakness - his outside shooting. Sure, he's not a terrible shooter, but neither is he consistent enough to make it a comfortable fit (see Pippen). To pay a player max money (that's what Kidd will get) when his playing style is not the focus of the game plan is not smart. So the real question is whether Ming could really succeed in an open-court system? Is he a good enough rebounder to be a consistent outlet passer? Can he be an effective trailer on the break? I'm not so sure, given his history of getting winded. My guess is that Ming would do better in a half-court game, where his post-up skills (which should improve) and court vision are maximized. This is not to say that Steve Francis is the answer either. Steve's problem is that he's simply not comfortable with any kind of set offense, half-court or open-court. He does best in one-on-one setups. I'm not sure how you can reconcile his abilties with Ming's.
LMAO, good job Riley dog, I actually always wanted to learn the lyrics to that song but was too lazy to look for it, thx.
build the team around Ming, of course. buy low, sell high. Instead of moviing Steve to the 2, trade him for a great one. SF for Vince. Trade Mobes to the Clipps for Jaric and Maggoty. Trade Griff and a re-signed Posey to Washington for Kwame, Etan Thomas, and spare change. offer Best the exception for a 2 year deal til we could draft a better backup pg. Jaric / Best Vince / Hawkins / Maggoty Maggoty / Nachbar / IR trash MoT / Etan Thomas / Kwame Ming / Cato / Thomas eventually Nach should emerge as a starter, moving maggoty to the bench as a super sub. MoT is showcased for his eventual trade as Kwame progresses in practice. Thomas becomes our bruising enforcer. Oh, but wait, this is WWRAD, so I'm not done. Okay, 1st, in the 2nd round draft TJ Ford, even though he wont declare. Claim "territorial rights". 2nd, sign Duncan for 1 million more a year than SA can offer. Reason they can so blatantly circumvent the salary cap? Teams with 7'5" centers can call "max plus one". It is later added into the CBA as the "Duncan Rule". Houston graciously lets SA have Mo as a consolation prize. Jaric / Ford(til he gets a jumper) / Best Vince / Hawkins / Maggoty Maggoty / Nachbar / IR trash Duncan / Etan Thomas / Kwame Ming / Cato / Thomas 8 titles there, easy.
subtomic, did Jabbar run with Magic? did Utah run in their heyday while also having a plodding, deliberate offense do you really need a center to run to have a fastbreak? RileyDog, do you happen to have the SNL Script for Bert Bacarac's take on Iraq? That's was funny. A-Train, you're right. Without my meds, I start drooling everytime I think about Jason Kidd.
Well, you're going to have to take them, because Saddam Hussein and George W. Bush will finish top 2 in the Nobel Peace Prize voting before the Rockets trade for Jason Kidd. Remember, acceptance is the first step...
No, but unless you plan on the Rockets finding someone who can finish like James Worthy, the Rockets will need a star player who can trail. Furthermore, Magic was a good half-court offensive player as well (way, way better than Kidd). Finally, you're counting on Ming to have a shot as consistent and deadly as Kareem's skyhook. While Ming is good, I'm not sure if that is likely. Of course they did, but Kidd can't shoot like either Stockton or Hornacek. Stockton's greatness was his ability to succeed in either type of offense. And Malone is a GREAT trailer in a fast break. Probably not, but the other problem I mentioned is whether Ming is a good enough rebounder to make the fastbreak a consistent threat in the offense. I'm not sure he is, and unless you're planning on getting a 2nd rebounder on the team, I would bet the team would mostly run half-court plays. This would make Kidd ineffective, and we would be wasting his talents (and our money). I'm not opposed to a new PG, but Kidd is not the answer.
