In my opinion, Brad Miller would be the perfect PF to compliment Yao. He's got real good shooting range, rebounds well, plays some low post defense, has gone head to head with Shaq & hasn't backed down (translation: toughness), & he's 7'0" 261 lbs. From everything I've read, Sacramento is more likely to trade Webber, than Miller. Webber is a great player, but I believe that Miller would be a better fit for the Rockets. While the rumors of McGrady coming to Houston are intriguing, I believe they will ultimately prove to be just that, rumors (He's playing us. Remember Webber?). So, rather than doing whatever it takes to get McGrady, maybe we should be doing whatever it takes to get Miller. I read an interview of Adelman, in which he feels the Kings need to add one more big man, with a more physical presence. Would they be interested in Cato, & what else would it take to get them to part with Miller? Would they take Cato/Mobley for Miller/throw-ins? They're still in love with JJ. Would they do a Cato/JJ for Miller/Wallace trade? What do you believe it would take to get Miller, & are you willing to pay the price? Part of the Sacramento Bee Interview with Adelman Q: You mean health-wise. A: Health-wise, yes. But I think for sure, you have to look at your depth behind Peja. You need somebody you can play there to give me some flexibility. That's one for-sure. And I think we obviously need one more big guy. You look at our team, and I think it's pretty obvious that the area we got hurt in was people attacking the basket on us. So I think if we can become more athletic and become more of a factor at deterring people attacking the basket, it's certainly going to enhance our defense. Q: And so when you say one more big man, you're thinking of an interior-defender type? A: An interior defender. With Chris and Brad - and I'm not saying Vlade's not going to be here - but Chris and Brad are very good rebounders. But I think you still need a little more physical presence around the basket.
I'm all for gritty players. Brad Miller is the only player i've seen get underneath Shaq's skin. Your idea of really going after a tough minded player like were supposedly going after Mcgrady is reasonable. I'm sure Caroll Dawson is doing that. Van gundy really wants this team to be tough,and I wouldn't blame him. Last year though we had a pretty good team defense but we just didn't have that toughness. I'de like us try for Brad Miller type of players. I wouldn't mind us going for Ron Artest. Maybe giving up Mobley/Nachbar? Either way the era of Mobley /Francis backcourt can soon be over. One thing I like about Francis is he is emotional type of player. That certainly can be a bad thing but it also can be a good thing. Artest really can bring defense every night. Would The Pacers trade him? If so , I would run at pacers hard with a Nachbar/Mobley package.
I remember Rudy T wanting Brad Miller after he played for him in the USA basketball when the NBA players went on strike.
I think the chances that Houston can trade for Miller this offseason is next to nothing. Sac just traded for him last year and he's been good with them. And there's no one on the Rox that would fit into their passing, motion-intensive offense except for Yao and JJ who they already let go. Cato would be even more lost in their offense then he is in our's. It ain't happening.
Yeah, I don't see why the Kings would let him go. Vlade is too old and a FA, CWeb is too injured, they need Miller. I am pretty sure he'll be their starting center next year. We don't have anyone worth to the Kings to trade for him anyways. And he isn't a true PF.
Hes the exactly the type of PF we need. An excellent rebounder with a excellent jumper. There is no way to get him unless we trade yao. With the system they run none of our players would fit well with them. You would have to be a good passer and unselfish to fit in their system so that would disqualify just about everyone on our team.
Miller is the Kings' center of the future. You can't get him without giving away so much that it isn't worth it (unless they are stupid enough to take Steve for Miller and Bobby Jackson).
I think it's out of the question. He averaged 5+ assists, I don't think anyone but Miller and Divac can do that in their system. Yao can't run enough to do that. Even Divac is too old to do that now. Miller is their perfect replacement for Divac. He's more untouchable than Webber.
While I've seen nothing to indicate that Miller might be available, I'm of the opinion that only franchise players are off limits. There might be other ways to peek the King's interest, such as a multi-team trade. In all honesty, this is probably just a wasted discussion & we might have a better chance of pursuing Webber. However, there might be some players available on other teams that would convince Sacramento to give him up. I read an article about Toronto's new GM & it was suggested that VC might request a trade. If he were available, would the Kings have any interest in him? Would Toronto want Francis (Imagine the irony of sending Francis back across the border. )? Other talent that could be available are Tyson Chandler, Eddy Curry, McGrady, Jamison, Kobe, Al Harrington, & Dampier to name a few. Could Sacramento be tempted by any of these players, if Cato were thrown into the mix? Would one of those teams be more interested in Francis than Miller? Everything is for sale. You just have to find the right asking price. How about if we did this trade? Houston sends Francis/Taylor to Orlando. Houston sends Cato to Sacramento. Orlando sends Gooden/Hill/Garrity to Houston. Orlando sends the #1 overall pick to Sacramento. Sacramento sends Miller/Jackson/#1 pick (#29) to Houston (the pick could go to Houston or Orlando). I know that everyone is in love with McGrady, but games are won by the teams that control the game down low, & that area is controlled by the big men. If Garrity is fully recovered, we have our PF, SF, & quality depth at PF/PG (Jackson). We then sign a FA PG like Payton, Barry, Hudson, Jones, Fisher, or Alston. Our new lineup could be: C: Yao/Miller/FA PF: Miller/Gooden/Spoon SF: Garrity/JJ/Nachbar SG: JJ/Mobley/Piatkowski PG: Payton/Jackson That'd be a pretty solid team to go into the season with. CD just has to get creative, that's all.
The Kings have targeted Miller as Vlade's heir apparent at C. CWebb's lengthy injury put a major detour in that path, but it's still IMO what the Kings are going to do. Secondly, the Kings run a motion offense with a lot of back door cuts and weakside off of the ball action. Yao and Jim Jackson are probably the only Rox who could learn the Kings' offense quickly enough so I doubt the Kings would be interested in any other Rockets. IOW, you'd have to send the Rocket players to a third team for players who can pass the ball to send to the Kings. Lastly, I'm in favor of putting an athletic PF next to Yao. Players like Rasheed and Stromile are preferable to players like Miller and Brand IMHO. Players who can make up for Yao's defensive weakness...lateral mobility...are what I would look for.
Agree. Miller would be really nice, but the Kings aren't shopping him, especially for Cato. Vlade is very close to being done and Miller stepped right in and they didn't lose a beat.
"From everything I've read, Sacramento is more likely to trade Webber" WHy don't we go after Webber then?
Because he makes close to half of the salary cap by himself and will be lucky to be a shadow of his former self in the last few years he has left in his career. If you think people whine and bemoan the Rocket's bad contracts now, just wait until they get a load of him. Evan
We only whine & bemoan bad contracts when the player doesn't produce. If Webber were to bring what he's been doing for the last few years, nobody would have room to complain. My only concern about Webber is his shooting range. I believe he needs to be close in to the basket to be at his best. Unfortunately, that would clog up the middle for Yao. That's why a player like Brad Miller, or even Donyell Marshall (as McBeth suggested), would be so complimentary to Yao.
Yes they would be interested in Cato. But swapping Miller for Cato doesn't do anything for them. They still would need 1 more big man.
Is this the same Webber that likes to hang out at the free throw line extended and would rather launch 12 footers than muck around in the post because he doesn't have a goto move down low. Are you perchance talking about some Bizarro-Webber who uses his great hands to loft up sweet looking hooks all day. Cause that isn't the C-Webb I've seen. In fact I've mentioned before that of all the pfs in the league I think C-Webb is the best fit with Yao because of his high post game and his passing ability. But ultimately I wouldn't want to risk Webber's health, age, and monster contract.
