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What went wrong for Kamala?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ROXRAN, Nov 6, 2024.

  1. Nook

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    Laborers don't give a **** about trans rights - Palestine and Israel - what economists say - the environment or helping immigrants when they see high inflation for the first time in their lifetime - see housing costs rise and grocery costs spike - one side said the economy is good - the other side offered a bunch of bullshit that won't likely work... but at least admit there is a problem and are not the party in power.
     
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  2. HTM

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    Even though Trump is a billionaire born with a silver spoon in his mouth he comes off as more genuine, he has a personality, he has banter, he has a common touch that resonates with people.

    Kamala does not have much personality or common touch, she is PC, she isn't a statesmen like Obama, she lacks charisma and has a cackle..

    She was a disastrous candidate.
     
  3. tinman

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    And a lot of people like Dave Chappelle and JK Rowling
    @AroundTheWorld
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  4. fchowd0311

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    I think it makes them victims of their social media algorithms and whatever internal levels of natural racism and bigotry that exists within them and all of us being exploited.

    There isn't a real actual contingent of actual parents actually afraid of this issue happening to their own children and their only point of contact with this issue and the only reason they fear this issue is because a social media algorithm is telling them to fear it. It's similar with the border. 99.9% of people who believe border security is a top concern in America have never had a negative interaction with a illegal migrant and their entire touch point with illegal immigrants is their social media feed.
     
  5. HTM

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    The Democrats were always going to pay for cereal costing $9 a box, insurance premiums and rent doubling and the general cost of living explosion. I said it for years here. People put their head in the sand.

    @adoo in particular got all his graphs out to show us how wrong we were and how inflation and the cost of living was totally fine.
     
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    When did liberals make trans rights an issue?

    Do you know know how this cycle of right wing grievance culture works by now?

    The right finds a new powerless target to spam hate content about and leftists and liberals then have to be like "why are you all of a sudden picking on these people".

    Harris didn't run on anything trans related outside of one liners when asked about trans people. And the Harris campaign didn't run on Israel Palestine. They made sure to try to avoid that topic as much as possible.

    They mainly concentrated over the threat Trump is towards democracy which is something I believe they should concentrate on along with things like healthcare and labor rights. But they seemed to only concentrate on the democracy and fascism stuff.
     
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    Californians think $5 gas is normal breh
     
  8. No Worries

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    That whole going to school as little Johnnie and coming home as little Jane really hurt her ... oh wait.

    BTW most of your issues are paper thin R talking points. First day of the Biden Admin Fox News was chirping about the Crisis at the Border. 4 years later, everyone was saying why oh why didn't Biden address the border sooner. It just BS. First day of the Trump 2nd Admin he will declare he fix the border by declaring it so.
     
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  9. Xerobull

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    More facts that 'the economy' was the issue.



    Jason even notes that the other issues- trans, immigration, wars, etc- are really for the base that is going to vote Trump anyway. The 'economy' issue is what pulled most independents.

    Again, this is squarely on the backs of the Democratic Party leadership for not having the think tanks, data and balls to say, we need to lean into this, we need a real, simple, easy to explain and execute plan to fix 'the economy' (wages, really).
     
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  10. No Worries

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    Number One is supply chain issue caused by COVID, amirite?
     
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    @Nook , I have to credit you… you were one of the first ones to say you know Trump is likely going to win, regardless of how you feel about it the rest of these libturds kept acting like there was no chance whatsoever..lol now we know
     
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    I think she did great with the tools that she had to work with. Her personality being one of those tools as well. Good prosecutor. Good as a Senator. Good as a VP. And even a decent debater. However in 2024 with the world the way it is with us being in this weird entertainment politics world yeah of course she's not a great foil for Trump. She's just very normal. Into really normal things, and she's just not a larger than life personality. I was actually looking forward to that normality in the White House honestly, and I'm NOT looking forward to politics being Trumpified again, but that's just me. I guess America cares more about being entertained than just getting the damn job done.
     
  13. No Worries

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    Trump's plan to fix the economy? Well it actually more of a concept than a plan. I hope you see the huge double standard here. Trump does not have plans ... never had, never will. But Harris has to have 100s page of policy statement and such or else.
     
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    If only the entire Democrat establishment including the media hadn't lied through their teeth about Biden being fit for another run for 1 to 2 years, amiright?
     
  15. ROXRAN

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    America was simply tired of whatever the Biden/Harris was putting on the table for the last four years
     
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    I think this type of framing says a lot about the individual buying into the framing.

    A normal generic practice of dismissing concerns of their own party's candidate's health concerns where both parties would do the exact same dismissive rhetoric of health concerns in the same position is more offensive to you than a presidential candidate making blood libel claims of entire ethnic groups in America.

    Ant presidential campaign regardless of party would do the same "he's not suffering from being too old" rhetoric to save face and pretend their campaign is fine. That is basic politics. To say that is what made people distrust the Democrats is so hilarious.


    A generic practice of politics is the concern, not the blood libel. o_O
     
  17. dobro1229

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    They didn't make it an issue... The Republicans made it an issue, and the Democrats decided to not acknowledge or answer it. The thinking I guess was that voters are above it and will be turned off by the constant disgusting ads on TV over and over.

    Towards the end, Collin Alred I think actually handled the question well but his response was always going to get lost in the Ted Cruz ad noise.

    The Trans thing is a culture war issue that the Democrats didn't create, but moving forward they are in a world they need to have an answer for because obviously.... fear based propaganda works.
     
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  18. ROXRAN

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    Harris just called Trump to congratulate him
     
  19. No Worries

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    That probably drove the tech bros to Trump.
     
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  20. fchowd0311

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    Everyone here understanding that if the situation was reversed, Trump wouldn't make the call to concede and congratulate is exactly why people are afraid of another four years of Trump.

    So understand it comes from a place of reason and logic to be concerned. You even understand this call would never happen in reverse.
     

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