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What went wrong for Kamala?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ROXRAN, Nov 6, 2024.

  1. tinman

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    Diddy knew
     
  2. Scarface281

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    I live in California. I already know about Kamala. In fact, I'm part of the problem because I did a split ticket in 2016 because I was a Berniebro, voting for Trump and then her for Senate (I can finally admit this with a clean conscious lol).

    After hearing what she did to minorities in the Bay later on when she started to gear up for the presidency, and my then-gf but now wife's strong dislike of her due to pretending to be middle class (this was a thing when she first ran in 2019), i wasn't voting for her every again.


    Unfair terms? They were the same terms Biden agreed to but Trump tried to reneogiate and all the Kamala team could say was "we only agree to the 9/10 debate". Please tell us about these "unfair terms". Seems like another excuse. And you want to call me dishonest? Did yesterday not teach you anything breh?
     
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    So does that mean America is full of racist Nazis this morning? The 25% of black males that voted for Trump, are they racist Nazis too?
     
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    Timing—people still didn't know her. When I saw the Google search analytics skyrocketing on “Did Joe Biden Drop Out?” It was a reminder that the majority of America doesn't obsess over politics. It's easy to forget that when you argue on the internet most days.
     
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  5. No Worries

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    Why? Fox News has for the last four years said that the economy was failing. They did not report any good economic news. They reported talking points.

    Dollars to donuts, the first week of Trump's second term Fox News will say the economy is going great guns, inflation has been tamed, the stock market if off the charts and the crisis at the southern border has gone away (until the next election cycle). Trump have done jack **** and get the full credit for the economy he inherited from his D predecessor.
     
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    For the record, what you wrote is racist as ****, right? She did not chose her black father.

    For the record 2, Trump does make believe like being a garbage collector and being a fry cook at McDonalds. People saw through that as well.
     
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    What is wrong was she never received a single vote nominating her to be on the ticket in the first place. She pretended to be African American. She is not a very likeable person. Not to mention that annoying laugh.
     
  8. No Worries

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    All Trump had was a concept of a plan, if that.
     
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    Her father is Indian and Irish. Just because he is from Jamaica doesn't mean he's Black. Check out her family tree sometime.

    Oh and speaking of racist, many would say you're racist for lowercasing the "b" in Black when referring to Black people. When referring to say, a black t-shirt, sure lowercase it. Since you want to go there.
     
  10. No Worries

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    This is complete BS ... each and everyone.

    I like how you are pretending that if only Kamala did this or that she would have won. She certainly could do nothing to secure your vote, right?
     
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    She changes her accent depending on the audience
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    If it's one thing about democrats is that they are arrogant. I've done it myself where I call people idiots but I really tried to scale back. I tried to post on social media less and less now. All I want to do is discuss and not be calling people idiots. It was a mistake for me to do it before and I definitely want to be better about it. So the party better not come arrogantly at us as if this is our fault.
     
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  15. Xerobull

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    Bingo.

    It's a failure of management.
     
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    May we never be burdened by hearing the name Kamallah ever again!
     
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    This is really the biggest factor. Everything else is just noise.

    401ks should not be an indicator of how good people are feeling about their finances. People will continually vote with their wallets. All the social justice ****, abortion, etc, people don't necessarily care about it as much. Democrats need to run on their economic success and figure out how to make things economically better when people's immediate needs are not being met.
     
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    link will work for everyone:

    https://wapo.st/48KyCOE

    Opinion : Republican self-degradation continues. Democratic self-sabotage helped.
    Republicans’ decline is obvious. Let’s look at how Democrats helped reinstall Trump.


    By George F. Will
    November 6, 2024 at 5:42 a.m. EST

    Conducting a thorough autopsy on the cadaver of Kamala Harris’s campaign will require the scalpel of voting data not yet sharpened. Two things, however, are obvious. Democrats should have remembered the ancient axiom “be careful what you wish for.” And they should have remembered the warning attributed to their hero Franklin D. Roosevelt (regarding Gen. Douglas MacArthur): “Never underestimate a man who overestimates himself.”

    Progressives, which most Democrats more or less are, are defined by their confidence that clever people (they have themselves in mind) can manipulate society and fine-tune its complex processes. So, many months before President Joe Biden’s disqualifying decline, which many leading Democrats had fiercely denied until it became undeniable, Democrats worked to see that Republicans selected the nominee who would be best for Biden: Donald Trump.

    Republican opposition to Trump’s nomination became untenable after the August 2022 FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago (pertaining to classified documents), then his indictment in the hush money case. This was concocted by an elected, flamboyantly anti-Trump Democratic prosecutor in Manhattan, who, in a marvel akin to the multiplication of the fishes and loaves, transformed a bookkeeping misdemeanor into 34 federal felonies. Democrats, who call Trump an “existential” threat to everything, endeavored to secure him another presidential nomination.

    Enough has been said about the Republican Party’s eight years of self-degradation. More needs to be said about the Democratic Party’s self-sabotage, via identity politics (race, gender), that made Harris vice president. And then, via Democratic Party high-handedness, foisted her on the nation as the party’s nominee. She did not pass through the toughening furnace of competition that reveals mettle, or its absence.

    Her campaign, although short, was too long for her talents. They do not include the skill of making her synthetic centrism — her repudiation of her entire public profile prior to July — seem authentic.

    A wit once asked, can the phrase “insipid beyond words” be applied to words? Harris segued from vapidity (“joy!”) to hysteria (“fascism!”), from Beethoven (“Ode to Joy,” without the music) to Wagner (“Götterdämmerung,” staged for swing states). She mocked Trump for being such a feeble president that he could not even build his border wall. Simultaneously, she intimated that in a second term the triumph of his Hitlerian will would steamroller America’s democratic institutions. Perhaps voters detected a contradiction.

    And perhaps some of them thought: Before claiming to sniff Nazism on the other party (and its supporters), Harris’s party should deal with the stench of its antisemitic faction that is pro-Hamas and therefore pro-genocide.

    Harris, who called Trump “weird” (an unusual, for her, understatement), leads a party hospitable to advanced thinkers who believe that men can menstruate. Speaking of weird, the Biden-Harris administration’s secretary of Health and Human Services could not be cajoled, during Senate testimony, to refer to “mothers” as other than “birthing people.” And perhaps Harris’s difficulties with male voters had something to do with her party having too many members who think that in their favored phrase, “toxic masculinity,” the adjective is actually redundant. Trump has hardly monopolized the supply of weirdness.

    In October, the Obamas descended from Olympus to remind us of the meaning of “insufferable.” And to demonstrate why progressives persuade only themselves. The Obamas scolded approximately half the electorate for disappointing the Obamas, who are weary to the point of irritability by the chore of teaching their deplorable inferiors this: If you will please just vote as we Obamas consider hygienic, you will disguise your moral backwardness that requires us to stoop to instructing you.

    A minimally articulate Democratic nominee would have contrasted nicely with Trump’s rhetorical style of digressions piled upon previous digressions. Instead, Harris got lost in her syntactical labyrinths. And she spent too much time belaboring two subjects: Trump’s boorishness and abortion.

    The former is familiar to everyone and appealing to many. The latter issue was heated to a red glow by the Supreme Court’s June 2022overturning of the constitutional right to abortion. But by 2024, it had cooled somewhat as various states, including some red ones, passed pro-choice laws and/or state constitutional amendments, and sentient people recognized that it is politically impossible for Congress to pass a national abortion ban.

    It has been said that the future is a mirror without glass in it. But Trump’s scatterbrained approach to almost everything makes it likely that he will fail to do much of what he has vowed to do. Then, in 2028, Americans get to do this again. That is the good and bad news.






     
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  20. Xerobull

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    At a macro level, it was failure of leadership. TYT nails it:

     
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