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What to do with Mo Taylor?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by fitchjs, Dec 13, 2002.

  1. fitchjs

    fitchjs Member

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    We know that Taylor is not happy with his roll right now. If this begins to seriously effect is play, maybe sending him to Philly would be the answer.

    Houston sends Taylor and Collier to Philly, in order to satisfy salary cap.

    Philly sends Coleman to Houston

    This would free us alot of salary for the future since Coleman is in the last year of his contract.

    This might work for both teams. Philly gets another scoring threat and Houston gets a older vet who could be a help in limited minutes while we grow the younger players.

    Your thoughts.
     
  2. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    coleman and helping a team should never be used in the same sentence.

    i like mo taylor. 82 games is a long time. injuries happen. having 3 players who can start for you at pf is a good thing. and remember, he didnt play ball all of last year. patience is a virtue.

    and thanks for starting a thread about something other than yao ming. it already way past overkill...

    and duece...thanks for adding to the sever problems and adding nothing to the discussion...
     
  4. Mr. Clutch

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    Coleman is a cancer, forget it. I say just keep him on the bench. If either KT or Griffin go down for whatever reason he will really be needed. Without him the PF spot looks not only weak but also thin.
     
  5. Deuce

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    Red, this is a message board and I voiced my opinion. No other opinion terse or otherwise is any more valid than anyone elses. The type of answer I gave was indicative to the type of (in my opinion) ridiculous trade offer. Stop throwing stones in the glass house.

    Chris
     
  6. fitchjs

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    I was not suggesting this trade! I like Mo and the type of game he brings to the Rockets, expecially along side Ming.

    What I was talking about was if his limited minutes and lack of starts and being left out of many games has a negative impact on his play and attitude.

    If his play would seriously suffer, what could we do.

    I hope none of this happens and Rudy finds a way to mesh everyone together.
     
  7. derrock

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    Why does everyone suggest bringing in cancers to the team?

    Sprewell, Rasheed, Coleman

    There's a reason these guys are on the market. We're a young, .impressionable team. Let's not bring in people with a bad influence.
     
  8. Lobo

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    He seems to be riding the pine just fine to me. Once his pine-riding abilities decline, let me know. ;)
     
  9. DAROckets

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    Maybe he should try it with a little butter and jelly ;)
     
  10. Dallas Rocket

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    It takes a pro athlete 1-2 years to fully recover from Achilles tendon repair. Let's be patient and I think you'll see him come around as the season progesses.

    The MoT we saw at the end of the 2000 season would provide the inside presence and consistent scoring we are seeking to complement Yao. Let's not jettison him quite yet before allowing him time to recover from the injury. Fortunately he is, by and large, at team player with a good attitude and is just frustrated now.

    Dallas Rocket
     
  11. heech

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    In the spirit of avoiding cancers... how about this?

    Seattle trades:
    SG Brent Barry (12.3 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 4.7 apg in 36.3 minutes)
    C Jerome James (3.8 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 9.0 minutes)

    Seattle receives:
    PF Maurice Taylor (6.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 17.1 minutes)
    PG Moochie Norris (5.5 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 21.8 minutes)

    Change in team outlook: -4.6 ppg, -2.2 rpg, and -1.7 apg.

    Houston trades:
    PF Maurice Taylor (6.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 17.1 minutes)
    PG Moochie Norris (5.5 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 21.8 minutes)

    Houston receives:
    SG Brent Barry (12.3 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 4.7 apg in 22 games)
    C Jerome James (3.8 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 0.6 apg in 5 games)

    Change in team outlook: +4.6 ppg, +2.2 rpg, and +1.7 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    Barry's contract is up in two years, and he's not going to be much good on a team that's expecting to lose Payton after the season (and headed into serious rebuilding mode). The Sonics're gonna build around Mason and Lewis, and Maurice Taylor can help there as the 4.

    Can Barry play the SF position? If so, he'd be the perfect fit from the Rockets point of view.
     
  12. MManal

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    Exactly Derrock, fully agree. There is no reason for this team to bring in players like Coleman, Sheed, Anthony Mason, Sprewell etc. The team is FINALLY starting to gel and does not need a potentially disruptive influence like that.
     
  13. Timing

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    We don't need to do anything with Mo. We're an injury away from Mo getting 20/30 minutes a game. MoT can do things on this team, he's just not playing well right now. I tend to think he'll turn it around and regain his shot.
     
  14. xiki

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    Mo will be OK. Or not. Coleman will never be.
     
  15. Easy

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    How about this sentence:

    Coleman and helping a team should never be used in the same sentence.;)
     
  16. sncns

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    Its bizarre how I've been thinking to myself that we're due for a trade and I get in here today and everyone is talking about Mo.

    Personally, I think we'd trade KT before Mo, but there could be some things we don't know about going on.
     
  17. codell

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    I just re-read your 1st post in this thread. Sounds to me like you are. :p
     
  18. Sane

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    It really kills me when people say things like "He'll get minutes when there's an injury".

    Forget the fact that he's unhappy doing that, why the hell do we want a 7M/year for 5 years insurance policy?

    I really want TyHill on this team. Boozer is doing great in Cleveland, and I think this is a nice trade...

    Houston trades:

    MoTaylor
    Moochie Norris
    Kenny Thomas

    Houston recieves:

    TyHill
    Kenny Anderson


    Seattle trades:

    Kenny Anderson
    Brent Barry
    Jerome James

    Seattle recieves:

    Moochie Norris
    MoTaylor
    Chris Mihm

    Cleveland trades:

    TyHill
    Chris Mihm


    Cleveland Recieves:

    Brent Barry
    Kenny Thomas
    Jerome James


    Houston:

    Obviously, we gain experieence, and get cap relief. But we loose a crowd favourite, and a very good backup. We lose MoT who's still young and with a J that can go up against anyone in the league. KT has been performing well of late, and in the East, he can cause mroe problems. He'd get more PT, and could be a nice complimentary player to Boozer. TyHill and Kenny Anderson would make us instant playoff locks, and we can challenge anyone in the league. TyHill is the eprfect type of player to play alongside Yao and in front of griffin. It doesn't get any better. I know no one likes Kenny Anderson, but he has a short contract, and is good for 15 minutes a game easily.

    Cleveland:

    TyHill is getting frustrated with battling a rookie for PT, and at the end of his career, probably wants to be on a winner. Cleveland are still re-building, and a player like KT is mroe suited to their plan. Brent Barry gives them the PERFECT compliment to Dajuan Wagner in the backcourt, and Jerome James can play quality backup C and 3rd string PF minutes. Good for 18-22 minutes a game. They get better, and their young players improve. Overall, the only loss is taking James' contract. Losing Chris Mihm makes no difference to them, as they're already a big team, and he hasn't played forever. But he is close to returning.


    Seattle:

    They're slumping a bit and a small trade like this could take them from 8th seed to 7th seed. Mason is DYING to break in to the starting line-up, and he deserves it. Moochie Norris fills in as backup Guard off the bench. What they gain is a PF they didn't have. MoT becomes their starting PF and is better than anything they had, and Mihm becomes a major contributor at C, whether as backup or starter. With Booth and Drobnjak getting minutes, they can ease him in and let him develop slowly. It may take ages, but he ahs more potential than James.



    Thoughts?

    *note: it needs a tiny bit of adjusting on RealGM trade checker, but it's very close. Throw in a first round pick for the team YOU feel gets screwed the most from the team YOU feel gained the most.
     
  19. JayZ750

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    I'd jump all over this trade, as I think most others will. It leaves us with no backup point guard, but I can see Mobley and Barry on the court at the same time for Francis' 5-10 minutes of rest a night. Plus, the small lineup of Francis, Mobley and Barry is much preffered to Moochie, Francis, Mobley.

    Granted, there is probably only about a 25% chance of Seattle doing this trade. Reasons to do it for them include getting a low post threat (and let's be honest, Taylor isn't a defensive or rebounding machine, but he can put up 12-20 points a night and do other things), getting a solid backup PG, and more time for Desmond Mason. But both Taylor and Morris have, possibly, contracts they don't deserve that last a number of years. Doubtful to happen, although I imagine the Rockets would do it if offered.
     
  20. JayZ750

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    Sane, I don't see how this exchange helps Houston at all?
     

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