FULL STORY Police Searching for Woman Caught Beating Child on Surveillance Tape MISHAWAKA, Ind. — Police were searching Friday for a woman caught brutally beating her 4-year-old daughter on a parking-lot surveillance tape.
Your question is a really good one society-wide. Did you see that clip from the White Sox game? Same sort of complete idiocy, though you could say its worse to hit your own 4-yr-old than it is to jump a 50-something guy from behind. So what is it? a) it's always like this, but now the events get more coverage b) people are completely stressed by the modern world c) the absolute decline of parenting has led to an adult populace of infantile emotional states. d) and still other options ... ?
I have seen it and I swear to God, if she did this to my son, her family would pray that the police got to her before I did!!!
I think it is a combination of a) and c). If you look around many young adults act like toddlers. Nobody wants to parent their kids anymore. That's why you go to Wal-Mart and see kids literally rolling around on the floor while their Mom stands around doing nothing. That's why you go to the Texans game and see a kid throwing paper airplanes off the 3rd deck and Dad justy sits there sipping on beer #5. There is no discipline or sense of right and wrong instilled. Child abuse, however, is nothing new. These things have happened since the dawn of time. They get more coverage now because we now have at least 3 channels devoted to news 24 hours a day. it used to be that TV news was only 30 minutes a day. That's why we hear about these things with alarming frequency today.
I saw that clip yesterday and couldn't understand how or why she could literally punch her daughter. She did it like it was fun. Before she made the first blow she looked around to see if anyone was watching her. I'm so glad the camera caught this and hope someone finds them.
I saw this last nite. I have a 2 year old son and occasionally he does something he shouldn't and he gets spanked. However what this woman did was nowhere near what I would call a spanking. IMO it was borderline attempted murder. She pummeled the child, who part of the time of the beating was strapped into the car seat, with closed fist as a boxer would pummel his opponent. It was blatant punching with intent to injure the child. Hopefully they will find this person and prosecute them to the fullest the law will allow. CK
there is no one a child trusts more than his/her parent... it is nothing short of tragic when a parent does something to breach that trust...i can't imagine the pain of feeling like my parents hated me as a young child...or feeling like they wanted to hurt me. i pray for this child to have someone show him/her the kind of love a real parent gives.
I got real beating when I was a kid. Not just wippings but beatings. I'll never do the same to my kids. But I firmly believe there is a difference between a wipping and a beating. Still I prefer to try and reason with my kids, which is tough at times. I have a 2year old daughter and she wants to hit and pinch. When she hauls off and smacks me in the face I grab her arm tight look her straigh in the eye and stearnly tell her, "I don't hit you, you don't hit me". I think it's working but only time will tell. There is no excuse for child abuse.
Castor and VooDooPope, Maybe I'm out of line, and I don't have kids, but THANKS for disciplining your kids. I mean it. We all owe a great debt to good parents, all 17 of them. I got spanked, and I feel completely unscarred and better for it. ... give or take the terrible sense of humor I display in some of my other posts.
When my son does not listen, he gets a swap and a timeout. No second and third warnings and counting to three and all that malarcky. After the swat, his behavior is explained to him, and then I explain to him that he still has timeout. All the while, I hug him and tell him I love him. After timeout, we talk about it again, and I make sure he is looking at me and paying attention I always finsh up telling him how much I love him, and that he has to listen to his Daddy the first time he is told. You all know how dearly I love my son, and he loves me just as dearly. When my big bro came down last month, his kids were in the pool w/ me and my son. My bro's 3 yr old became very pushy and greedy w/ the pool toys, trying to take the toys my son was playing with. I stopped my nephew and he took a swing at me!!! He got a swift smack on his hand and an explanation as to why he got it. My brothers wife said..."Well that didn't solve anything" I didn't hear this, my mom told me about her comment later. That child did not misbehave around me again, but played w/ me and my son like we were his immediate family. Kids need parameters and need to realize that actions have consequences. Then again, my brother's wife is a spoiled brat, but I'll save that for another thread another day... I do discipline my child, because I love him. He will be succesful because he will realize that his actions have consequences, and I pray he will always think hard about all the decisions he makes. I would never beat him like this pathetic egg donor/incubator did to that poor child. I pray that this child is ok...
I completely agree. I got disciplined and spanked as a child, and as long as it isn't excessive or damaging physically or mentally the kid will learn. Even if you don't believe in spankings discipline the child. Some parents think that if you don't physically spank a child that it means you can't raise your voice to them or teach them right from wrong. A kid learns from their parents. I have little cousin who is about 2 years old who I babysit pretty much every day and she just imitates everything and remember everything you teach her. Kids are really sensitive at that age and it is the best time to teach them right from wrong. Unlike this piece of crap lady who should be rotting in prison. If I ever saw here doing that to a kid, lady or not her @ss is grass.
wow..you sound like a tremendous father!! i try the very same approach...it takes a ton of patience, because a 2 year old boy will try to test the hell out of you! but it's so important to follow up discipline with hugs...so important to communicate what is wrong and why they're being disciplined. i encounter the same thing you encounter with your brother's kids from time to time...but it warms my heart to watch my son sharing with other kids...to see him help another little kid up when they fall down or to show genuine concern when they get hurt. that's great stuff! God bless you and your son! he's a lucky kid!
My Dad was the type of father who had a clearly defined role in the family. He was the disciplinarian. My sister and I used to joke with each other that Mom is the one who would get her feelings hurt and Dad was the guy who yelled a lot and kicked a$$. He didn't literally kick a$$...he had a paddle and he'd deliver a smack on the butt and you'd try to avoid that behavior again. My Dad helped make me the man I became. A man with a respect for rules and boundaries, one with a strong enough work ethic to work hard and graduate law school. There are some who would accuse my Dad of abusing his kids. That's laughable. Wait...that's not laughable..that's offensive. My Dad wasn't abusive. He loves his kids. My sister and I knew that and know it even still today...in fact it has become clearer as I have grown older. There was love, but there were clearly defined boundaries. Going outside the boundaries had meaningful consequences...just like in the real world. Lazy parenting which is rampant today is a disservice to the child...because it does not help prepare the child for the realities of life. All of that said...the woman in question exhibited patently unacceptable behavior and she needs some jail time.
Thank you Max. I'm sure you're a great Daddy as well. I taught him how to say "I love you" in sign language, and every time I dop him off with his mommy, he runs to the window, and we sign "I love you" to each other I really miss him.
Apparently now her lawyer is saying she will turn herself in. http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/Midwest/09/20/video.child.beating/index.html His quotes and spin are extremely annoying. <I>"Martha is great, she has no bruises, no abrasions, no marks, she's fine, she's been checked out," the attorney said, <B>basing his information on a phone call from the mother</B>.</I> (The same mother that beat the living hell out of her) <I>"<B>It's not what you think it is</B>, it was a bad moment at a bad time, she shouldn't have done what she did," said her attorney of the taped incident, which apparently shows Toogood hitting the girl for 25 seconds, after first looking around to see if anyone is watching.</I> (I guess it wasn't the mom slugging the 4-year old repeatedly to the head) The fact that none of the family would cooperate with authorities to get that little girl looked at also makes me sick. Some seriously sick people out there.
