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What pg does Francis remind YOU of?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by CriscoKidd, Apr 2, 2000.

  1. CriscoKidd

    CriscoKidd Member

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    I hear a lot of people compare Francis to Iverson or Marbury.

    Personally, He kind of reminds me of young Tim Hardaway, but with hops. Here is some stats.

    ________MPG FG% 3P% FT% Reb APG TO PPG
    Tim(89) 33.7 .471 .271 .764 3.9 8.7 3.3 14.7
    Steve [​IMG] 35.5 .437 .330 .794 5.1 6.5 3.9 17.6

    that is all for now.

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  2. Mango

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    A larger athletic Zeke.

    Mango

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  3. Francis3

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    Rudy says Steve is like Isiah Thomas.

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  4. Mango

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    Francis3,

    Glad that Rudy and I agree.

    Does Francis3 agree?

    Mango


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  5. Rocketeer

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    He kind of reminds me of Kevin Johnson in his prime. The little guy had some serious hops too.

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  6. Pole

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    he reminds me of Matt Maloney, but darker complected, more athletic, and with game.

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  7. heypartner

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    can someone post some Isiah stats?

    He has Isiah's interior passing instincts. That's what sets him apart from the other hopping dribblers.
     
  8. Supermac34

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    The great thing about Francis...he has the potential to be better than any of the players listed in this forum. Well, maybe not Zeke, but who knows.

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  9. CriscoKidd

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    Here are Isiah Thoomas's CAREER numbers...

    FG% 3P% FT% Reb APG PPG
    .452 .290 .759 3.6 9.3 19.2


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  10. heypartner

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    Isiah always thought he could hit that 3ptr didn't he.

    I meant to ask, can anyone post the season-by-season stats of Isiah. Got to be out there somewhere.
     
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    K.J. [​IMG]

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    Francis reminds me of this kid that came out of Maryland. He only played a year there, so people may not remember. He played the 2 there, so when he came to the pros, there was a learning curve for him to get past. After that, though, his athleticism and passing eye came into focus. Anyone remember this guy's name?

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  13. No Worries

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    How about David Thompson with less hops.

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  14. Azim da Dream

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    Heypard,

    14 assists per game??!!?!!? Tell me thats a typo!

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  15. DaDakota

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    I think Steve and Isaiah is a good comparison.

    You know what Zeke used to say?

    "I could score 50 a night if I wanted, but we would lose"

    Now that is the kind of PG I want on my Rockets.

    DaDakota

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    Azim...just got confirmation on the 13.9. That was the NBA record until Stockton broke it twice with 14s.
     
  17. heypartner

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    Here's an appropriately titled book to compare Francis to Isiah:

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    btw: here's a review of the book. It is supposed to be an excellent read.

    The author was allowed inside the brain trust of the Detroit Pistons for an entire 1988-89 season, which happens to be the season they won the first of their back-to-back titles and also their first season in the Palace. You see how the team chemistry is blended, how the trades are pulled, how the GMs think, how the college talent is evaluated. You learn how franchises try to entertain audiences and just how much of the NBA is a money-making business. You see how Pistons' GM Jack McClosky tries to win a title, without trading away the future. You see how beat writers try to pry stories out of players who give generic answers. You see the locker rooms and how players interact with one another at practice. You learn the REAL reasons behind the Adrian Dantly for Mark Aguirre trade. You see how McClosky agonizes over the coming expansion draft, knowing he can only protect 8 of the players in the the Piston's 9 man rotation. You see the rookie camps and how guaranteed contracts sometimes count more than talent. You see how McClosky built a team specifically to beat the Boston Celtics. In other words, you learn all about the behind-the-scenes workings of a championship-caliber NBA franchise.
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  18. dream_team

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    why are people talking crap about Isaiah? he only won two championships and is one of the 50 greatest. to compare Francis to him is a big complement. btw, i do see some similarities between the two. if you've seen Isaiah play, you know that he has the athleticism to dunk on some guys, he just didn't try it all the time like Steve does. BUT, i wouldn't say Francis reminds me of him. Thomas' biggest asset was his ball handling, which I think Francis needs to work on.

    I like whoever compared Francis to the early KJ. if you watched KJ in his early years, he was the quickest guy in the league and he dunked on just about every center in the league. he was quick, athletic, good outside shooter, so he could score on anybody! i think that's a more accurate comparison, let's just hope Steve doesn't get any injuries like KJ got...

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  19. heypartner

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    I don't think anyone here is talking crap about Isiah.

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  20. haven

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    I can think of a few 2's that he reminds me of...

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