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What it means to be “woke”

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by durvasa, Apr 19, 2022.

  1. fchowd0311

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    There is a difference between "shaking ones head" and "this tangibly harms the common person".


    Look at the end of the day businesses at the level that have a board of directors having a 3 grand fine is pretty irrelevant.

    I always have a litmus test for news media outlets and social media accounts that spread news:

    If you invest time in these type of stories or stories about trans swimmers at swim meets and never share stories like Realpage price fixing of rent pricing across the nation, then you aren't a serious mess aggressor or journalist and just a culture wars spreader.
     
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    isn't that what leftists have been saying about this the whole time while people like you were claiming It's a lbtq authoritarian agenda being spread rather than them just doing ad campaign s to maxamize return on investment?
     
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    When the whole pronoun change started, I was confused and had to ask a buddy of mine what it meant. We had a lady in IT who changed her signature to she/her or something to that effect, she was already a female so I was confused. But after that I literally paid it no mind, the person I had been working with didn't change, she didn't become entitled nor lazy. I saw it happening more and more and after awhile I didn't even notice it and I work at a very inclusive company where we celebrate everyone. This video makes it seem like everyone who uses a pronoun will act like that and I have seen 0 evidence of any of this. The one young lady who says she would never hire anyone with a pronoun doesn't work in the real world where we all have hiring issues and to top it off she is being short sided IMHO. I am sure we can all find videos of the left and the right taking things to the extreme which I chalk this up to, but I can honestly say I have never had one issue with this.
     
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    Surely you are right and not everyone is like that (one of my favourite employees is super woke, and we sometimes discuss these things in a trusting way) - but directionally, my own experience is unfortunately like this lady describes it. Ultimately, if you are an employer, you want people who focus on the job at hand, not activists.
     
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    I deal with wokies all the time
    I feel like Hans Solo
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    Can y'all just please leave Target alone? I can't go back to Walmart.
     
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    I can respect your experiences, when our company went public and we merged with one of the longest standing Medical device companies in the world we went from 500 employees across the USA to 5000 employees spread over many continents, we took in many different cultures and personalities. Its been great to deal with so many people that are different than what I was used to, our company not only embraces diversity it helps us lead the industry. Is it all perfect, hell no, no company is, but I have learned to embrace the differences we all have and the different life lessons I have learned from some cool people on different continents. You can be active in your community, in your business dealings and still get the job done, there is a time and place for everything. We work hard and play hard and support each other, hey I might not agree with some things but I will be there for that person if they get stuck on a project. For what its worth, I never changed my pronoun, I am a guy and I don't feel the need to tell anyone I am a guy, but I don't look down upon anyone who does..........to be transparent, if I got offended over every little thing other people do I would be insane.
     
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    You really don't need to respect his experiences.
     
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    By now, it’s obvious that the reactionary culture warriors who want to reshape American education are inspiring a serious liberal counter-mobilization in response. Remarkably, this backlash to the backlash is gaining momentum in some of the reddest parts of the country.

    A raucous school board meeting in Hernando County, Fla., on Tuesday night captured what’s striking about this new phenomenon. The scene featured teachers pointedly declaring that right-wing attacks are driving them to quit, even as parents and students forcefully stood up on their behalf, demanding a halt to the hysteria.

    “I have never seen such fear from my colleagues as I have seen in the last two months,” social studies teacher Victoria Hunt told the board.

    The whole affair really put the culture-war-mongers to shame. Not that they’ll see it that way; as the meeting also showed, scenes like this — with maximum rage, fear, tension and suspicion surging between parents and educators — are precisely the outcome they want.

    This county, north of Tampa, voted for Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in 2022 by a 41-point margin. It’s where fifth-grade teacher Jenna Barbee recently enraged local enforcers of right-wing orthodoxy by showing her class “Strange World,” a Disney movie with an openly gay character. The Florida Department of Education is investigating whether she violated DeSantis’s “don’t say gay” law restricting classroom discussion of sex and gender.

    Barbee is resigning, but she’s hardly the only one. At Tuesday’s meeting, local teacher Daniel Scott gave a moving speech, declaring that the climate of rage is driving him out of the profession.

    “I don’t feel that I can adequately provide a safe environment for my students anymore,” Scott said, denouncing the “draconian working conditions that are causing many such as myself to abandon this honored career.”

    Meanwhile, Alyssa Marano, a math teacher who has resigned, rejected the oft-heard charge of LGBTQ indoctrination of students. “No one is teaching your kids to be gay,” she told the room. “Sometimes, they just are gay. I have math to teach. I literally don’t have time to teach your kids to be gay.”

    Nearly 50 teachers are reportedly planningto resign in this school district. Lisa Masserio, president of the teachers union in Hernando County, says state laws and directives restricting educators are a key reason. She told us: “There is increased pressure and scrutiny on an already difficult job.”

    At the meeting, right-wing parents and a minority of the school board amplified the usual attacks: p*rnography in classrooms, indoctrination, wokeness. Watching them, it was impossible to avoid the sense that they were relishing every second of the tumult they’ve unleashed.

    At the meeting, Shannon Rodriguez — a favorite of the right wing Moms for Liberty that led the attack on the Disney movie episode — kept robotically repeating phrases like “woke ideologies” and “woke agenda,” not even slightly disturbed by any sense of obligation to define their meaning. She proudly brandished her solidarity with boycotts of Bud Light and Disney as a badge of anti-woke heroism. Another conservative parent practically shouted, “You have awakened the entire alpha male blood of this country!”

    But the real story of the night was the response. Again and again, parents and students forcefully defended teachers. They cast the right’s attacks, the censoring of educators and the removal of books as the real threats to education.

    “War on woke?” one student said pointedly. “More like war on your children’s future.”

    “It’s me and my fellow students who are feeling the effects of this,” said a second student. A third said the removal of books from classrooms is what’s really “indoctrinating students.”

    Things like this are happening all over. As Sarah Jones of New York magazine reports, liberal parents in states as far-flung as New York, North Carolina and Montana are organizing local groups, pressuring school boards and running for office to challenge the right’s education takeover.

    Democratic politicians are stepping up. Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker will soon sign a bill that requires schools and libraries to adopt a prohibition on book removals for political reasons to qualify for state funding.

    We have also learned that nine Democratic governors representing nearly 9 million students have sent a letter to leading textbook companies decrying “the negative impact that censorship and book-banning has on this nation’s students.” The letter indicates that the governors are watching closely to see if attacks on the companies by right-wing governors — such as DeSantis — are producing books that are “inappropriately censored.”

    Phil Murphy, governor of New Jersey and the head of the Democratic Governors Association, says these governors will be modeling an alternative to right-wing censorship going forward.

    “There’s a broad lane available for Democratic governors to reclaim the mantle of core American values — freedom, patriotism, rights,” Murphy told us. Murphy recently responded to DeSantis’s restrictions on an Advanced Placement course on African American studies by expanding the number of such classes in his state.

    Just as a car wreck commands attention, the ugliness of right-wing culture-warring often transfixes the news media. But another story is beckoning: Ordinary parents everywhere and their elected representatives are responding, and declaring that they’ve had enough.

     
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    This is kinda funny
     
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    @ROXRAN @Salvy
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    The dog ain’t lg b or t

     
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    A backlash to the backlash was inevitable.
     
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    This makes sense because
    L don’t want T
    And G don’t want T
    And B don’t want T
     
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    But you want the D. Time to step out of the closet. You post wayyyyyy to much about LGBTQ issues to be straight.
     
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    I am surprised people haven't boycotted p-hub...i heard (don't quote me on this) there are a lot of gay, trans stuff on there!
     
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