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What is McGrady worth? Really.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by xiki, Feb 9, 2010.

  1. xiki

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    What is Tracy McGrady worth? What is his real value? Conventional wisdom (CW) is that he is valued as an expiring contract, a large expiring contract, in fact the largest expiring contract in the NBA.

    Is that what McGrady is really worth? Is that all?

    I watched every minute of his cameo (which translated roughly to 16/4/5 over 40 mins). What I saw:
    Lack of explosion in his first step
    Indifference on the defensive side of the court
    A guy who was on court well ahead of projected for his injury/surgery
    A guy who never was on the court long enough to get into the flow of the game
    But a guy who even during those 45 minutes was a + offensive force who had to be accounted for while in the game
    Many, if not most, of this BBS is frustrated by/disappointed in/understands the issues between the team and him
    Many, if not most, of this BBS is frustrated by, and misses, the talent he could be providing to this team

    Now, it's weeks later. Weeks of dedicated work in the Tim Glover palladium of physical perfection, or so we are led to believe; and viewed by 12-14 reps of interested (and/or curious) teams. Wouldn't we all like to know what they have seen, what they are seeing? What they are really thinking?

    Stefanski has said that any move will have to be 'a basketball move'. McGrady is a basketball move. He is TMac non grata at the Toy Shop but he will be motivated to add to his scores and scores of millions earned with one last score (yes - pun intended).

    Tracy McGrady is worth more than just a salary dump to the Wiz or 6ers or Bulls or W's or Knicks or or or whichever team 'wins' the TMac sweepstakes next week. I (want to) believe it will be reflected in 'The Deal'.
     
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  2. DaDakota

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    Nothing more than his contract.

    DD
     
  3. xiki

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    I must be the deaf, dumb, and blind boy because he still has enough talent to help a team, at least from the shoulders down.
     
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    Shoulders down? I think his knee and back disagree.
     
  5. J.R.

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    You already answered. As a player for some teams and exp. contract for all the other teams. Teams like NY want him as a player also. Appears those other teams you listed may want him as a player too. If it doesn't work out then, well then they get his contract.
     
  6. IamKhan

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    If you are not good enough to be a star, you have to be a role player. TMac is either.
     
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    Right on...eye of the beholder really. I will say that I do believe TMAC can get us a really NICE player via trade but there is no way anyway can see TMAC as dependable asset at this point.
     
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    I wonder if the Rockets can pull off a reverse Donte Greene/Artest type of trade.

    Rockets get a lottery pick, and some lottery team gets to try out T-Mac for half a season with the hope of resigning him.

    McGrady is worth a lottery pick right?
     
  9. xiki

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    I certainly do not see McG in a Lotto enabling exchange. I do see him bringing a quality player and some acceptable filler(s), perhaps in conjunction with the loss of a liked Rocket (Bud/Scola most likely IMHO).
     
  10. xiki

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    Perhaps I was suggesting that his talent exceeds his head.
     
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    ...and his heart does too.
     
  12. Rockets4279

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    His value is worth 6-7 million, but never 22 million. His value is worth a 10-15 pick mostly to a contender team who is willing to risk the pick to take him on a last year like Utah.
     
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    I have accepted in my mind that one or two of the rockets young guys is going to get moved along with Tracy's contract if Morey expects to get anything worthwhile in return for dumping such a large contract. Right now Tracy's value is strictly his contract. Tracy is probably praying he gets moved at the deadline to a bottom feeder type team that can buy him out and he can then sign with a potential playoff team to help him get out of the 1st round.
     
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    The point Xiki is that because he is an expiring deal, no team would take him for his bball talent because Tracy can just walk in a few months.

    So, all anyone would be doing is taking on the cap relief.

    Maybe he does have some S&T value...but his contract is all his value is right now.

    DD
     
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    Apparently whoever gets him will get a "hungry" player.
    But tmac isn't even in game shape as of now, it'll take him a week or two to be at game shape, and while he gets in shape he'll have to learn the offense and rotation of the team he's going to (not saying he's not capable of doing it) I just see tmac coming in from the bench for the rest of his career, and let's see what he gets in the offseason, I wouldn't see a team signing him more than MLE. A team will do like we did Ron a one and done year contract.
     
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    Right!! Like Utah. At worst what did they lose moving their pick to take a chance - a one and done thingy. They have him off the books and still have to resign Boozer and then some.
     
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    Because of the way Adelman handled the situation nobody truly knows what he's worth, coming back from a major surgery and not playing for almost a year

    It would have most likely took months to get back to full strength and get his timing back as would any player, so you can't really tell much since he only played about 48 minutes of gametime.
     
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    Whoever trades for Mcgrady is going after his contract, not his ability as a player.

    The question is: what is an expiring contract worth. Often it's not much, and teams end up just keeping the contract instead of making a bad trade and taking on more salary. Sometimes a team get lucky, a really desperate trading partner arrives and stuff like Kwame Brown for Gasol happens. We'll have to see how many desperate teams are out there this year, supposedly it's quite a few.
     
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    the rockets made sure that mcgrady isn't worth more than his expiring contract by once again mishandling the situation.

    mcgrady should have participated in training camp and preseason. he should have gotten those 8 minutes per game in the first 10 games of the season. and he should have played 20 - 30 mpg by december.

    that scenario was entirely possible but the rockets chose to go in another direction.

    now, when other teams take a look at mcgrady all they see is a guy that had a career threatening surgery and hasn't come back from it successfully.

    the rockets got it wrong again. last year mcgrady shouldn't have played. this year he should have.

    it's sad because mcgrady's expiring contract is a nice asset. just not for getting back a player of mcgrady's caliber. other teams do want those 20 mio $ in cap relief. but they won't give you a superstar for it. in fact, they even want decent talent (lowry, brooks, scola, landry) back in order for them to ship out borderline star players that they don't want or need anymore.
     
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