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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by gifford1967, Oct 20, 2004.

  1. gifford1967

    gifford1967 Member
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    Why would Pat Robertson come out with these statements about Bush now, when he knows it will only hurt him? This is really strange.




    Robertson: I warned Bush on Iraq casualties
    President's response: 'We're not going to have any'



    NEW YORK (CNN) -- The founder of the U.S. Christian Coalition said Tuesday he told President George W. Bush before the invasion of Iraq that he should prepare Americans for the likelihood of casualties, but the president told him, "We're not going to have any casualties."

    Pat Robertson, an ardent Bush supporter, said he had that conversation with the president in Nashville, Tennessee, before the March 2003 invasion. He described Bush in the meeting as "the most self-assured man I've ever met in my life."

    "You remember Mark Twain said, 'He looks like a contented Christian with four aces.' I mean he was just sitting there like, 'I'm on top of the world,' " Robertson said on the CNN show, "Paula Zahn Now."

    "And I warned him about this war. I had deep misgivings about this war, deep misgivings. And I was trying to say, 'Mr. President, you had better prepare the American people for casualties.' "

    Robertson said the president then told him, "Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties."

    Robertson, the televangelist who sought the Republican presidential nomination in 1988, said he wishes Bush would admit to mistakes made.

    "I mean, the Lord told me it was going to be A, a disaster, and B, messy," Robertson said. "I warned him about casualties."

    More than 1,100 U.S. troops have died in Iraq and another 8,000 troops have been wounded in the ongoing campaign, with the casualty toll significantly increasing in the last six months as the insurgency there has deepened.

    Asked why Bush has refused to admit to mistakes on Iraq, Robertson said, "I don't know this politics game. You know, you can never say you were wrong because the opposition grabs onto it: 'See, he admitted he screwed up.' "

    Even as Robertson criticized Bush for downplaying the potential dangers of the Iraq war, he heaped praise on Bush, saying he believes the president will win the election and that "the blessing of heaven is on Bush."

    "Even if he stumbles and messes up -- and he's had his share of stumbles and gaffes -- I just think God's blessing is on him," Robertson said.

    As for Bush's Democratic rival, Sen. John Kerry, Robertson said, "I don't think he's a leader. He's a ponderous debater, a good senator probably."








    Find this article at:
    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/19/robertson.bush.iraq/index.html
     
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  2. Sishir Chang

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    Maybe God told him to.
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    I heard about this. Assuming that Pat Robertson is telling the truth, GW Bush had a very bizarre mindset going into this war.

    When Pat Robertson has a more realistic view of the War in Iraq than our commander and chief, we need a new leader.
     
  4. ima_drummer2k

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    You know what they say about assuming.

    When you assume, you make an ASS out of U and ME.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes, are you assuming that Pat Robertson is lying?

    Deconstructing a word because of it's spelling rarely holds any profound truth in it.

    You know what they about the truth. It makes a T out of RU and TH.:p
     
  6. ima_drummer2k

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    Oh, but it DOES hold a profound truth. Just ask the original coach for The Bad News Bears.

    After all, that's where I got it from. :D
     
  7. plcmts17

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    I wonder who the "we're" are when shrub said "we're not going to have any casualties"? Talk about blind arrogance. How the hell is he supposed to know about the realities of war when he doesn't even now about the realities of daily life?
     
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    [​IMG]

    Klytus, did he just call me an ass?
     
  9. Fegwu

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    I think Pat Robertson is not telling the truth.

    I don't trust him.
     
  10. Zion

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    LOL :D
     
  11. MR. MEOWGI

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    Then you don't trust God.
     
  12. MadMax

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    Pat Robertson absolutely slays me. This guy...wow. Very frustrating to me.
     
  13. thadeus

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    Pat Robertson is a punk b****. I bet him and O'Reilly call the same chat lines.
     
  14. thadeus

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    Um..consider this constructive criticism and move on.
     
  15. Oski2005

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    I think he's lying about the part where God categorically broke the war down as going to be a) a disaster, and b) messy.


    I do however believe the part about Bush saying there weren't going to be any casualties. Not that I think Bush believed no americans would die, just that there wouldn't be enough for him to really consider it a big deal.
     
  16. Rockets2K

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    seems like to me that IF this conversation did indeed take place, then Robertson is not remembering it clearly...

    I dont give the Pres much credit for being very smart....but aint no way I believe that he was so seriously deluded to believe that no one would die there....

    maybe he said that "we're not going to have many casualties" instead of 'any'

    besides....like others have noted....I dont particularly trust Robertson...all those televangelists arent trustworthy in my eyes.
     
  17. No Worries

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    Can we deduce that GWB and Robertson worship a different God? Or are we back to the point that God is a real pranster?
     
  18. glynch

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    I think the bizaare statement about "no caualties" shows several things about Bush. 1) He was fooled by Chalabi and the other would be leaders of Iraq who told him the Iraqis would greet them with flowers and candy (he ignored the CIA and State Departments on Chalabi and relied only on info fed to him by the Wolfowitz types)

    2) A few hundred caualties (you'd have to be psychotic to expect less) just didn't mean anything to Bush (little Jessica Lynch was not his daughter)

    3) Bush got caught up in his own spin about a costless war, needing only a few soldiers, basically self paying out of the oil

    4) Pat Robertson was trying to warn Bush not to believe everything the neocns were feeding him.

    5) Pat Robertson is trying to distance himself from the war that isn't going well as Bremer, Powell, and many others have done.
     
  19. HayesStreet

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    Talk about strange bedfellows, lol.

    Glynch and Pat Robertson...

    :eek:
     
  20. ima_drummer2k

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    I love the response to this thread. I guess Pat Robertston has no credibility.....unless he's slamming W.
     

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