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What is fascism?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by StupidMoniker, Apr 22, 2023.

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What is fascism?

  1. Everything within the state, nothing against the state, nothing outside of the state

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  2. Little or no interference from the government in the lives of citizens

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  3. Capitalism, including the mixed economy seen in the United States today

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  4. Libertarianism

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    Peter Attia wants Michelle Obama to outlive Elon and Hitler in the Golden years???

    Just so he can think and grow rich!!?

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    Libertarianism can never truly exist. In order to maintain everyone's personal freedom, you'd need an entity to enforce those principals as otherwise individuals with power would use that power to take away other's freedoms. It would devolve into a feudalist system. But the very entity that would need to create rules to ensure everyone's freedom would in fact become a gov't that infringed on some freedoms to guarantee others.
     
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    Sounds like you are really saying anarchy cannot exist. There are other forms of libertarianism, including those that allow for a limited government that exists only to protect people's rights. Don't hurt other people, don't take their stuff. That's it.
     
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    No, I am saying Libertarianism can not exist. As I've stated before, it would simply become a corporatocracy that was similar to feudalism. That's not anarchy, it just mean the rich will rule over everyone else. So the rich will get all the freedoms, sure, while everyone else can be goaded into doing what the rich need. They will have some bill of rights...which won't be necessarily enforced. But hey, that's libertarianism.
     
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    Weird. I can’t post msnbc links.
     
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    The problem with Libertarianism is the same problem with Communism. Both are utopian with believing like Rousseau that human self interests will ultimately act in the good of society. The problem is that both ignore things like game theory and that collusion will produce inequalities and corruption.

    Under Communism it becomes easy for a small cabal to not actually work for the good of all to their own needs but want more. Under Libertarian a cabal’s interests rather than being checked by other interests gain greater economic and political control. The situation we saw with the rise of Robber Barons in this country.
     
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