Last year Battier was worth Stromile Swift plus the no. 8 pick in the draft. I can't see where Battier did anything to hurt his value over the course of the past season. Is Battier still worth a lottery pick? Is there a lottery pick worth trading Battier for? If we actually trade for Artest then that makes Battier a viable trade option.
last year I think he was worth a lottery pick because of the weak draft but this year I don't think so. I think he is a very valuable trading chip and if the Rockets shopped him he would get lots of intrest
He's only valuable to a team that needs his personality and work ethic. He doesn't produce that much on the court. He was a bench player in Memphis. I don't think we can expect a quality starter for him, alone. I think he's worth about the same - a sixth or seventh man kind of talent, than maybe starts if the team is in a lurch. To get more you have to package him with something else of value, and hope for a needy trading partner.
alot posters here think he can land us jo, lewis type players, and not even sure they want to do that.
With all of the mega-million Battier fans around here, you'll probably get cruxified. But you're probably spot on. No team IMHO is going to trade a still capable starter for Battier alone.
Why do so many people want Artest? The guy is on the decline, is NOT a PF, he is more of a powerful SF..... And he is a knucklehead. I believe Artest would cause more problems then he would solve. As to the topic.....I think Battier could net us an up and coming PF if you have a team looking for a good solid glue guy. DD
I agree. Artest could bring here a lot of problems. Battier is just a great temmate but I wanna have Wilcox too
sadly enough - i think that he'll be part of the Artest deal in effect gaining us SAR. I only take that as a hunch based on an informed poster's post. That would confirm pasox2's sense of his value (or perceived lack there of). I like Battier on the Rox - i'm not bashing.
Because Rockets don't have enough trade assets to update their talents, they have to take risk on Ron. It is a high-risk-high-reward gamble situation. You should feel grateful that only two teams in NBA (rockets and heats) can afford this risk.
But Artest has been a problem everywhere he has been, in my opinion he is just going to get worse. The Rockets need tough competitors, but IMO, they don't need players that would be a dominant personality. They need TEAM competitors, not individual ones....(not sure if that makes sense). DD
Artest is a head case but worth the risk for what's being reportedly offered. Though I must say, a team with both Artest and Mike James would make me a little nervous.l It would be interesting if the Rox did get Artest and then traded Battier for a mid-lottery pick. If they could use that pick then for a decent backup SG/SF, it would leave the team pretty set at all positions except starting PF.
You're right on the money, GRENDAL. With such a strong draft, I highly doubt any team would give up a lottery pick for Battier. That being said, I think Battier would still be a great trade asset for the right team.
At least there are still some reasonable people out there. Artest is a great talent, no doubt about that. But with losing a leader like Juwan, your just asking for trouble with Artest. We really do need team players, team competitors, people that will help TMAC want to play his heart out every night.
he's probably worth a mid 1st. around 14-16 i would think. i think we really wanted to get rid of swift, and the only way we could do that was to include the 8th.
He was worth more under JVG because under JVG, he was the type of player that was untouchable for other teams. Now he is more avaliable because of Adelman coming in bu he has done nothing to hurt his value at all this year, more likely he has improved his value with his play.
I’d say his value is about the same as it was last year, probably not likely to get higher. I think the rumored trade scenario of Jack/Outlaw for Battier is a pretty good gauge of Battier’s trade value. Two younger, less proven players, with much higher ceilings. Ironic, since it’s pretty much what they gave up to get him last summer. But the Mike James trade proves they aren’t afraid to undo a mistake. In this draft, I’d say he’s worth a mid-first rounder, and maybe a decent bench player. For example: Battier + #26 to the Clippers for #14 pick (Law or Crittenton?) + Tim Thomas Battier + #26 to Detroit for #15 + Mcdyess Battier to Washington for #16 + Etan Thomas Battier to New Jersey for #17 + Nachbar
If Adelman's smart, he'd call Battier untouchable, too. Not only will he keep Houston's defense from falling off dramatically, but he'll also work wonders for a motion offense. As complex as Adelman's offense is, you need high basketball IQ guys to set the right picks and keep the off-ball motion going. Battier will make a huge difference for Adelman's offense regardless of his own scoring.
I agree with you 100%. i truly believe he is a perfect role player for this team. he will let the stars do the scoring and take the right shots for him, not try to do to much.
Artest isn't a leader but he is still better than Battier. Did you guy not watch the game where he dropped 30 on us and hit clutch shots? Battier isn't rumored in the Artest trade, right? Not sure why people are acting like we have to trade Battier for Artest.
