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What I want the Rockets to showcase for next season

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by vince, Feb 26, 2000.

  1. vince

    vince Member

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    First of all, I say that Rudy and CD are doing an excellent job building the foundation for our next elite team that the Rocket organization showcase in two or three years. By this I mean that the Rockets likely and seriously won't contend even in our imaginations for a championship until 2 or 3 years from now at the earliest.

    But as it stand:

    At the center position and power forward position I'm happy with the stockpiling of talented guys. I however would like to do the following. Put Cato as the first big man off the bench. I just don't like him starting, he is more sort of a quick points and a guy who can be used to quickly change the tempo of a game with his quick spurts of defensive stops. Kenny Thomas I'd like to see him as the starting power forward. Rogers should be used as the second guy off the bench at the power forward positions.

    At the small forward position I think that the Rockets do not have this guy to be showcased on this current squad. However the backup guy is definatley Anderson and a little bit of Rogers as well.

    At the Shooting guards, Anderson should likely get a huge amounts of minutes, but mobley should get more minutes than Anderson at this position. Mobley is a specialist to change the tempo of a game, plus he gives you a point a minute when he plays on top of his game.

    Well, the point guard doesn't even need anything right now. Drew is an excellent back up. Plus Drew may one day challenge Francis for the starting point guard duties if Francis slacks off or wears himself out.

    so this is what I've said:

    c-(unknown starter) (Cato backup)
    pf-(K. Thomas) (Rogers backup)
    sf-(unknow starter) (Anderson backup)
    sg-(Mobley starter) (Anderson backup)
    pg-(francis starter) (Drew backup)

    So, if the starting center position is cleared up and the starting small forward are filled, then this is a championship contender.
     
  2. haven

    haven Member

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    I'm really afraid that Cato's contract is going to hurt us. He's making far too much money for a backup, but he doesn't really do enough, and he seems to be fragile.

    Rudy and CD jumped the gun in awarding him such a large contract... I'm afraid we're going to regret it for years. I still hope he proves me wrong [​IMG]... if he could just give us 3 blocks a game, 10 points, and 10 rebounds, I'd be satisfied.
     
  3. vince

    vince Member

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    Yeah, that's true. Cato is a raw talent with 3 or 4 years experience. I'm with you on this, some days I just think that Cato is getting paid too much.

    On the free agent market Cato would not command the amount of money that the rockets spent on him. He's more of a 4 million dollar a year man. Not the 7 or 8 million per year he has been signed.

    If Cato can get between 6-8 million per year, then what is Duncan worth. Maybee 25 million a year, but you bet ya that San Antonio managemetn is beathing a sigh of relief that there is this cap. Now they can pretend to tell Duncan that they'd like to give him more but they just aren't allowed by the cap.

    The salary cap is so bloated that the owners are making like thieves. Duncan will likely be signed to 8 million a year which in basketball money is a steal.

    And cato makes this much without having Duncans basketball abilities.
     
  4. Francis3

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    Cato is good enough. He is better than alot of centers in the nba. Some ppl here are so use to having a dominant center that they want too much out of the center spot.

    The Power Position spot has to be helped and so does the small forward. This draft we have to go and get those 2 positions. Then when hakeem is gone the rockets got to go after a BIG Free agent.
     
  5. heypartner

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    Duncan will sign for the maximum...$9m. Anything else is an insult.

    All centers with athleticism or a shooting touch get more than $4m, Vince. Witness Issuck Austin and Bison Hell.

    In those terms, Cato's salary is on par. That's just what centers get paid. By the way, here is his pay.

    $5.3333
    $5.9999
    $6.6666
    $7.3333
    $7.9999
    $8.6666
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    $42m

    By demanding the max, Duncan's agent will get him:

    $9.000
    $10.125
    $11.250
    $12.375
    $13.500
    $14.625
    $15.750
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    $86.625m

    Duncan will get nearly double per year than Cato, at his max. I'm glad the CBA has that under control now. $86m may seem unfair for Duncan; but if we don't cap him, Cato would likely get Bison Hell pay.
     
  6. haven

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    Heyparnter: Dele is a nut, but he also put up some decent numbers before his retirement... in 97-98 he managed 16.2 pts and 8.9 boards per game.

    Cato didn't prove anything before he was awarded his contract; he didn't even have one decent season.

    Is 10 pts, 10 boards, and 3 blocks really too much to expect from a starting center?
     
  7. thacabbage

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    I'm glad to see that the "center issue" is being discussed. I have been debating this myself with some of my friends for a long time.

    With the current big-man state the NBA is in, if you are over 6'10 and have the slightest ability then you are a good center. That's just the way it works right now.

    Take a guy like Tim Duncan, for example. Probably the best big man in the NBA, but he doesnt have any special skills. He has a basic game based on solid-fundamentals. The rest of the centers in this league suck so bad, that this makes him look all-world. I'm not saying I don't want Tim Duncan, I would love to have him. I'm just saying that if every center in the NBA worked on their fundamentals and had average-athleticism, then everyone would be Tim Duncan...which would be average. Nothing special. That is why I think guys like Kevin Garnett and Hakeem (when he was good) are/were so special. They had special skills beyond the basics. Normal big man weren't supposed to be able to do those things no matter how hard they practiced.

    Look at the guards in the NBA, however. If you're going to make it in this league as a starting point guard, you have to be awesome. Far different from the center position where if you're above 6'11 and can catch a ball, you're the man. This is probably why I respect the little guys so much. They have to work to develop extraordinary talents just to be in. Even then, most don't make it in the NBA. Take the best perimeter players, for example. Guys like Francis, Iverson, Jordan, they had to be absolutely outstanding to be the best at their position. The best big men just need to pat down the basic fundamentals, and their hall-of-famers.

    Now, lets look at Kelvin Cato. With the current "big man state" the NBA is in, he could become an All-Star averaging 14 points, 10 boards, and 3 blocks. That is pathetic. The man is 25 years old, has had personal, professional trainers to help him, and still doesn't have even a decent postup game. Outside from the dunk, his offense is non-existent. Still, because he has athleticism, and height, he is a valuable asset in the NBA. I have seen junior high kids on the playgrounds display better postup moves than the ones procenters (like Cato) show on the court. This is not a knock on Kelvin Cato, I just wanted to explain how someone with such limited skills, can be considered so much in the current NBA.

    I guess like they say, you can't teach height.
     
  8. AroundTheWorld

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    Cato had this one huge game in the preseason with a triple double, but hasn't really done much ever since then. He doesn't seem to be much better than guys like Keon Clark or so. The Rockets should think about trading him.
     
  9. Francis3

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    Keon Clark is not better than Cato.
     
  10. heypartner

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    haven,

    I agree he hasn't shown much, and I agree he better grab 9-10 boards and get 3 blocks to warrant that pay. yes indeed. I'd say those are second tier (6th-10th best) center numbers, to warrant his second tier center pay. My main point was his contract is 2nd-tier center pay. As thecabbage details, centers are a hot commodity.

    Cato will have no trouble scoring 10 ppg as long as Francis does he job properly.
     

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