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What happen to Ensberg? Lamb should start 3rd

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Luckyazn, Oct 23, 2005.

  1. Luckyazn

    Luckyazn Member

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    Ensberg had done nuthing this post season and he's our clean up man. Lamb is hitting way better and making for contact on Mo is.

    Ensberg is still changing his stands around during the playoff and looks lose up there. Maybe we should start Lamb at 3rd move Berkman to 1st and Burke to left field.

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  2. Hakeem06

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    he's struggled in the last series versus the cards and in game 1 of the WS, but you don't bench the guy who led your offense throughout the entire season. sorry. i've been as dissapointed in him as anyone on here but you don't bench the guy, especially because of his defense. he's very good defensively.
     
  3. magnetik

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    There is no way we should pull him out all together.. maybe mix the lineup a little.. Plus we are facing a left hander so hopefully he can break out next game.

    Man.. I hope the Astro's got all their WS jitters out last night.
     
  4. Zacatecas

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    I hope that Ensberg doesn't get discouraged. He is talented and he can contribute. Right now, he is sucking wind, but if he can get a couple of hits in a row, all will be well again.

    Remember he did a great job against the Braves. Then, they were pitching around Berkman, and Ensberg made them pay time after time.

    He's going to come out of his slump sooner rather than later, I hope!!!! ;)
     
  5. PhiSlammaJamma

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    He got us through the Braves, give him a break. He'll get it turned around in the nick of time. Gary Gaetti can get it done.
     
  6. deadlybulb

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    ...and what, exactly, has Bagwell done better to start instead of Ensberg?
     
  7. ruddy

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    Bagwell is the Dh. They are talking about Lamb.
     
  8. deadlybulb

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    But Lamb is already starting. Would Ensberg then move to DH? I think he was talking about benching Lamb, which is ridiculous.
     
  9. deadlybulb

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    I mean benching Ensberg
     
  10. RocketManJosh

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    I was waiting for someone to start a thread like this. Finally Morgan can get back to swinging the bat well. It sure worked for Ausmus.
     
  11. T_Man

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    Ensberg is still playing great defense so you shouldn't bench him.

    Basically what they need to do is change the batting order and move him down to the 7,8, or 9th position so that he can some confidence.

    As for Bagwell, he should be benched period. He has been out of action for months and that is a killer for any sport. If Burk is not in the starting lineup then he should be the DH.

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    Lamb is a butcher a 3rd. He should never play that position again.

    I'm a little worried about Morgan. Many people are saying they found a hole in his swing like they did for Hidalgo.
     
  13. RocketManJosh

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    I don't think it's a coincidence that Morgan's hitting started to go down after he hurt his hand. He's even said that he can't squeeze the bat handle like he normally does.

    I don't think they've found a hole, I think they are just taking advantage of an injury.
     
  14. Texas Stoke

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    Situational hitting is a problem for him. He's coming up to bat with a runner on
    third with no outs or 1 out and not getting the job done. It would be one thing if he was trying to get the runner home with sac fly but it seems as if he's trying to kill the ball and he's getting on top of the ball and not under it in those situations. He's got to not get greedy in those situations, especially when we're only down one, and instead approach those type of situations like Berkman, who is really good at getting the runner home with a sac fly.
     
  15. BigM

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    moving your season's most offensively productive player down in the order is going to help is confidence? i don't think so. without ensberg we're not even close to the playoffs so you have to think he can get out of this funk. as ausmus would say, this thread is "assinine."
     
  16. T_Man

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    BIGM,

    What do you think is happening to him now. By pushing him down in the order he will get to see better pitches. When a pitcher sees the 7. 8. and 9th hitter he tends to let up some.

    By the way there are 2 seasons the reg season and the playoff's. I played with guys in college that batted in the low 200's in the reg season, but when we got to the CWS they were hitting in the hi 400's. What Ensberg did in the reg season was great but right now he is not the same player.

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  17. The Ming Dynasty

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    HUH??

    Moving him down in the order is going to give him better pitches? You've got to be kidding. BigM was right; this whole thread is completely assinine. You're gonna get better pitches to hit when people are on base, and it is much more unlikely that Everett, Ausmus and co. would have a better on base percentage than say...Biggio, Tavares, & Berkman. If you moved Morgan down in the lineup all you do is demonstrate that you don't have confidence in him and that you don't think he'll get back on track.

    Suppose Tony LaRussa decided to PH for Albert Pujols against Lidge in the NLCS - Preposterous, YES! Insane, YES! In just the same manner that some of you are calling for Mo to either move down in the line up or be benched; I for one think HE IS DUE, just like Pujols was. Give me a Break!
     
  18. DieHard Rocket

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    Jimy? Is that you?
     
  19. The Ming Dynasty

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    YEAH BABY! What'd I just say! Way to Go Mo! Lock up and Shut down this assinine thread. Go 'Stros!
     
  20. kevwun

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    If you want Lamb in the lineup, dh him instead of Bagwell. I know he's done a lot for the Astros, but you don't win the world series by being touchy feely. Our best lineup right now is when Lamb and Burke are both in it. Games in the the american league gave us the chance to use both those guys and and still have our best defensive lineup. We blew the oppurtunity.

    Ensberg hit 36 homers this year, you can't bench him. Like he showed last night, if someone makes a mistake he can still jump on it even if he's not seeing the ball really well. That same pitch to Bagwell is a double at best, most likely a sharp single. He has no pop right now and there is no logical reason for him to be the dh, let alone batting in the 5 hole. If you still think Bagwell deserves it, then admit that you care more about seeing him play in the world series than you do the Astros winning it all.
     

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