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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by KAS13, Mar 1, 2007.

  1. KAS13

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    another loss and negative JVG and Rafer threads and a VSpan thread.

    First off, we lost because we didn't (and haven't been playing defense). JVg can't get out there and watch Bargnani and the rest of the team shoot uncontested jumpers and layups. He can yell, scream, put in different players but he can't make them play defense. Just watch the next 10 games and tell me this won't be a different team you see. Don't put the loss on the coach, put on it our players who haven't been working on d at all.

    Rafer played crappy last night. No arguing that he hasn't shot the ball well this season. However, he brings a lot of other intagibles to this team. Those are leadership, chemistry, charisma, ball handling, passing, defense (normally) and seeing the court. You can bring up that he's shooting poorly till your blue in the face (and you'll be right) but he's the best we have and he HAS to take those shots. Those who have played organized basketball at a high level, coached or watched basketball for a long time understand that. Those who haven't may not.

    VSpan played well in his 4 minutes of garbage time. However, how you practice, your attitude and your work ethic determine your playing time under JVG. So you can figure it out. If he decides he wants to play then he knows what he needs to do. It's not JVG's fault, it's VSpan's. Since when do scrub rookies get to call their coach and organization out? Everyone else talks behind closed doors but VSpan is so good he can go to the media :rolleyes: . JVG isn't keeping him on the bench b/c he spoke out or b/c he hates him but rather b/c he hasn't earned time on the court.
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Come on Kas, can you spout something other than the company line for once?

    Let me ask you a few honest questions.

    Whose job is it to get the team ready to play?

    Whose responsibility is it to hold players accountable when they are underperfoming?

    Whose job is it to make adjustments when other team's have an advantage in footspeed?

    Whose job is it Kas?

    DD
     
  3. shawn786

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    Im tired of new threads talking about how there are to many negative threads on JVG & Rafer...
     
  4. DaDakota

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    Exactly, if JVG and Rafer want to get positive reviews, they know what they have to do, play and coach better.

    DD
     
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    Heh, you never give up...
     
  6. DaDakota

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    I am just using the words that he used at the end of his company line dribble to make a point.

    DD
     
  7. KAS13

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    It's the coach's job to get the team ready to play. However, you sit and judge without first hand knowledge. The Rockets were prepared for the Raptors. They simply didn't play with any heart or desire. Did you watch the game? JVG is a great players coach. He gets on their ass when they screw up and his players love him. In fact, check his history everywhere. He has the respect of most all his former players and most all of his current ones.

    How do you know he doesn't hold players accountable? The easy answer is you don't You're not at any practices, tape sessions, ect.. to even come close to making that assessment. It's dead wrong. Plus, he uses his rotation. He yanks guys when they aren't playing well. I know Snyder is everyone's sup of tea at the moment but he is just not an intelligent guy. Evry single person wishes he could put it together because if he could he could be a pretty good player. Lok what he did at Nevada. Unfortunately his basketball IQ is exremely low.

    Look at the playing time last night. Everyone got a shot. He tried other players but the bottom line is that they are a quicker team then we are and despite attempts to make adjustments throughout the game our effort was poor. It isn't JVG's fault
     
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    Thats right. JVG placed all of his money on Rafer, If the latter does not perform he should take the fall for the tactical blunder. He got the credit he deserved when it was working, and remains stubborn with his methods but now that things aren't going so well , trying something new would be a very plausible option.
     
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    Dribble huh? What are your posts then? If mine are dribble then I guess I would call yours garbage since you are talking out of your ass 75% of the time. You pretend our assume to know what's going on, when in reality your just watching a game and guessing. That's real astute.
     
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    Yes it is...Everything in Houston is either JVG's or David Carr's fault :rolleyes:
     
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    The funny thing is before our recent stretch of poor play JVG was a coach of the year candidate. When Yao comes back and our team gets back on track (like I said (especially DD) watch the next 10 games) he will be again. He won't win, that award goes to Avery Johnson unfortunately but he will be deserving.
     
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    This would be far more convincing if these threads didn't show up after every loss. People have already made up their minds on what they want the team to do and what they dislike about JVG's approach, and then they use a loss as a pretext to rant about it. As if we'd never lose a game if we went with a 10-man rotation. :rolleyes:
     
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    What is the basis for saying that Snyder has a very low basketball IQ? From the way he plays there is nothing apparent which would justify a conclusion that he has low basketball IQ. He is a decent offensive player and is a very underrated defensive player. Rafer's basketball IQ on the other hand is very questionable considering that he has just set a very unenviable franchise record low in FG percentage.
     
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    Because I know. I know that's not an acceptable answer and I don't expect it to be but that's all I choose to say. Take it for what it's worth. Rafer has a good basketball IQ. Snyder is an amazing athlete and that's what you see.
     
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    Curious DaDakota... are every one of your employees efficient and productive every single day? If they are, you get 'Top Manager on the Planet' because you'd be the first...ever.
     
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    You're wasting your breath on him. His mind is made up and his thoughts on our team pre determined. He's proven that. It's cool, let him think and believe what he wants. He will only continue to be wrong that vast majority of the time
     
  17. Clutch

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    Agreed durvasa, but so do these threads. It's like someone sending out a SPAM message to thousands of people and one of the recipients replying to all to "Stop spamming!". It's annoying and these threads add to the problem.

    If you guys vote to lock all threads critical of the Rockets, or ones that have a 1-rating at 10 votes or more or something, let's go for it. Otherwise, there's little to nothing I can do about it except let their own words eventually tell their story (ala "Clutch Classic Moments"). It's a small minority of people that post this stuff and others, who don't want to reply to those threads individually, like to use their opinions to label the entire board as a way of just dismissing any problem as madness.
     
  18. KAS13

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    You know what we agree and disagree on. You can shoot me an email and I have a few suggestions.
     
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    I hope they're suggestions about Rafer replacements :)
     
  20. CharlieMurphy

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    Where do I sign up to vote? :D Either that or someone can create an "Official Fire JVG" or "Official Rafer Sucks" thread and everyone can post their complaints on them in there.
     

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