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Wells Fargo Ordered to Pay Back $203 Million to Customers

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  1. Lil Pun

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    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Judge-orders-Wells-Fargo-to-apf-3665036279.html?x=0

    NEW YORK (AP) -- A federal judge in California ordered Wells Fargo & Co. to change what he called "unfair and deceptive business practices" that led customers into paying multiple overdraft fees, and to pay $203 million back to customers.

    In a decision handed down late Tuesday, U.S. District Judge William Alsup accused Wells Fargo of "profiteering" by changing its policies to process checks, debit card transactions and bill payments from the highest dollar amount to the lowest, rather than in the order the transactions took place. That helped drain customer bank accounts faster and drive up overdraft fees, a policy Alsup referred to as "gouging and profiteering."

    Wells Fargo adopted the policies beginning in 2001, and they became widespread across the banking industry. It is unclear how the ruling would apply to the rest of the industry.

    The ruling detailed the experiences of two Wells Fargo customers who used their debit cards for multiple small purchases, and were then charged hundreds in overdraft fees because the order the purchases were cleared by the bank depended on the amounts. The judge found the customers, who were part of a class action, were not properly informed of the bank's policies on processing payments and were unaware the bank would allow debit purchases to go through when their accounts were overdrawn.

    "Internal bank memos and e-mails leave no doubt that, overdraft revenue being a big profit center, the bank's dominant, indeed sole, motive was to maximize the number of overdrafts," Alsup wrote. That policy would "squeeze as much as possible" from customers with overdrafts, in particular from the 4 percent of customers who paid what he called "a whopping 40 percent of its total overdraft and returned-item revenue."

    The judge dismissed Wells Fargo's arguments that customers wanted and benefited from the policies, and detailed evidence he said showed efforts to obscure the practices in statements and other materials. Wells Fargo's online banking system, for example, would display pending purchases in chronological order, "leading customers to believe that the processing would take place in that order."

    "The supposed net benefit of high-to-low resequencing is utterly speculative," he wrote. "Its bone-crushing multiplication of additional overdraft penalties, however, is categorically assured."

    Alsup also criticized the bank for allowing overdraft purchases after accounts had been drained by offering a "shadow line of credit" that customers were unaware existed.

    The decision noted that the Federal Reserve has outlawed some of the practices detailed in the case, most notably debit card overdrafts permitted without customers agreeing to accept overdraft protection.

    Judge Alsup ordered Wells Fargo to stop posting transactions in high-to-low order by Nov. 30 and to reverse overdraft fees charged to customers from Nov. 15, 2004, to June 30, 2008, as a result of the policy. A study cited in the decision by a Wells Fargo witness put the restitution at "close to $203 million."

    Wells Fargo spokeswoman Richele Messick said the bank is "disappointed" with the ruling. "We don't believe the ruling is in line with the facts of this case and we plan to appeal," she said.

    Messick noted that Wells Fargo changed its policies earlier this year, and customers can no longer incur more than four overdraft charges in one day.

    Wells Fargo shares closed Wednesday trading down $1.47, or 5.3 percent, at $26.30, as the broader markets dropped sharply on economic concerns, with banks being particularly hard hit.

    The case, heard in the U.S. District Court for Northern California, is Gutierrez vs. Wells Fargo.
     
  2. BetterThanI

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    Good decision. Their practices, in this case, seem intentionally deceptive. Listing transactions in chronological order but processing them in order by amount is just plain shady. I don't have a enormous amount of sympathy for people who intentionally spend money that they don't really have, but in this case, WF has made it difficult to those folks to know exactly how much they really do have available to spend.

    Of course, even if they lose the appeal, they won't lose the $203 million. WF will just recoup by jacking up some other fees.
     
  3. Dairy Ashford

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    Don't know what to think about this. Rebates for overdrawn checks?
     
  4. Depressio

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    I was a victim of this back in college in 2002. Too bad they're only reversing it from 2004 to 2008. :(
     
  5. leroy

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    I'm sure I had a few with them in that time period.
     
  6. El Toro

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    Don't really have anything constructive to add other than to say, I hate banks. All of them. With deep rooted passion. I don't think in my 30+ years I've ever done business with a bank that hasn't found a way to screw over their customers.
     
  7. BucMan55

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    I noticed this today as well and am thrilled.

    I remember one time in 2006 I had about $50 in the bank and 6 pending transactions for about $35 (minor stuff like fast food meals, quick grocery trips). Well, I had to get my vehicle towed and had to pull $60 out of the ATM at around 11pm. I knew this would overdraft me but I really did not have another choice, the wrecker would not take checks. So I was prepared to pay $60 for the cash, and $32 for the fee which would have overdrawn me by $75 or so. Well much to my surprise, they charged me 8 overdraft fees since the ATM transaction technically overdrew me and they hadn't officially processed the other transactions. Some of those transactions were made a couple days earlier.

    This opened my eyes to how they do their transaction processing. I've always referenced that event any time overdrafts have come up in conversation. Now, don't get me wrong, I have incurred a few other overdraft fees over the years, but mostly those were legit and not like the one I encountered back in '06. It would be nice to see a refund of some of those fees.
     
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    Nah, rebates for a single overdrawn check superceding several minor transaction made prior that incurs not a single fee but multiple fees. If they refund the initial overdraft fee that is wrong, but not the multiples that came after it on transaction made prior to the one that caused the overage.
     
  9. Phillyrocket

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    Yep, yep charges are rearranged so that the largest hits first and then descending from largest to smallest. Banks justify this by saying you wouldn't want a big charge like a car payment or the mortgage to be rejected, the truth is they do it to generate as many what I call f**k you fees as possible.

    It's shameless and should be eliminated. You should have gotten one overdraft charge, that would have been fair. All this does it hurt those who are the worst off and live paycheck to paycheck.
     
  10. Lil Pun

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    It's happened to me at Regions. Maybe they'll go after others next.
     

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