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Weldon: Atta Papers Destroyed on Orders

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  1. tigermission1

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    Interesting...

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050916/ap_on_go_co/sept11_hijackers

    Weldon: Atta Papers Destroyed on Orders

    WASHINGTON - A Pentagon employee was ordered to destroy documents that identified Mohamed Atta as a terrorist two years before the 2001 attacks, a congressman said Thursday.

    The employee is prepared to testify next week before the Senate Judiciary Committee and was expected to identify the person who ordered him to destroy the large volume of documents, said Rep. Curt Weldon (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa.

    Weldon declined to identify the employee, citing confidentiality matters. Weldon described the documents as "2.5 terabytes" — as much as one-fourth of all the printed materials in the Library of Congress, he added.

    A Senate Judiciary Committee aide said the witnesses for Wednesday hearing had not been finalized and could not confirm Weldon's comments.

    Army Maj. Paul Swiergosz, a Pentagon spokesman, said officials have been "fact-finding in earnest for quite some time."

    "We've interviewed 80 people involved with Able Danger, combed through hundreds of thousands of documents and millions of e-mails and have still found no documentation of Mohamed Atta," Swiergosz said.

    He added that certain data had to be destroyed in accordance with existing regulations regarding "intelligence data on U.S. persons."

    Weldon has said that Atta, the mastermind of the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and three other hijackers were identified in 1999 by a classified military intelligence unit known as "Able Danger," which determined they could be members of an al-Qaida cell.

    On Wednesday, former members of the Sept. 11 commission dismissed the "Able Danger" assertions. One commissioner, ex-Sen. Slade Gorton, R-Wash., said, "Bluntly, it just didn't happen and that's the conclusion of all 10 of us."

    Weldon responded angrily to Gorton's assertions.

    "It's absolutely unbelievable that a commission would say this program just didn't exist," Weldon said Thursday.

    Pentagon officials said this month they had found three more people who recall an intelligence chart identifying Atta as a terrorist prior to the Sept. 11 attacks.

    Two military officers, Army Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer and Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott, have come forward to support Weldon's claims.
     
  2. giddyup

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    Seems beyond reasonable to me. That's a lot of paper trail on one punk.
     
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    No way they have 2.5 TB of data on that guy.
     
  4. tigermission1

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    LOL! Yah, I thought the same thing...probably a typo or just an exaggeration.

    Seriously though, anyone who believes that the 9/11 commission or anyone else will investigate pre-9/11 intel failures 'in earnest' needs professional help. That's just not how the government operates, and there is no way they will disclose major intel to the public and will probably censor tons of documents (which they've already done) that are for 'private eyes only', as the Brits like to say.
     
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    i no right, most file sharing servers dont have that much space spent on thousands of movies.
     
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  6. tigermission1

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    Good point
     
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    heck of a lot of pictures, streaming video and his Ipod

    Rocket River
     
  8. Ubiquitin

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    AND two unreleased sex tapes.
     
  9. ROXTXIA

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    You can't censor what's already been wiped clean of a computer or shredded-and-burned.

    Those files, whatever they contained, are gone.
     
  10. tigermission1

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    I knew this was coming! (Terrorists Gone Wild) :eek: :D
     
  11. Ottomaton

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    If you consider the amount of data that might be collected by Eschelon assuming they use non-lossy formats cell phone quality levels, you could get there. Eschelon is tagged to identify voices and keywords and record every intercepted conversation. They could have hours of Eschelon data including telephone conversations in which Atta was mentioned by his parents or friends, or conversations by Atta ordering takeout.

    The system is designed to sift through every damn telephone conversation that can possibly be intercepted, and do only the broadest level of processing. That's a whole hell of a lot of audio data.

    It would also help explain regular data purges.
     

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